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Old 03-14-2006, 01:50 PM   #21
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Im either going to run the castrol R4 or the royal purple.

Both are good though. I just need to wait until the time comes for me to swap to synthetic.
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The purpose of oil is not just for lubrication. It's job is to hold contaminants from the combustion process. Water could lube an engine, but will not hold up to heat mainly. That is why regular and frequent oil changes are beneficial. After years of experience in engines (turbines spinning at 50,000 rpms) I can tell you that a synthetic is what the FAA likes and requires in most turbines.

i dont know how turbines work, but for cars i would understand full sythethic. for motorcycles since the oil not only flows through the engine but through the tranny also, i wouldnt use synthethic for a low mileage bike espceially since you fluctuate up and down on the RPMS constantly.

i never heard of oil used in the combustion process, but i never worked on turbines or know anything about them.

i see you have a 636, how many miles?
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:51 PM   #24
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The great motor oil debate has been beaten on countless forums both two wheel / four wheel alike. Ford or Chevy take your pic. Like I said it meets factory specs, doesn't have any friction modifiers, and lubricates your engine. What are my factory specs?

API SE, SF, SG, SH, SJ
Viscosity: 10w-40, this can also vary due to temperature conditions

What else do you need? My "diesel" oil does the same thing your preferred oil does, except is 8.00$/gallon and I can find it at walmart.

Any mechanic who has completed 3rd grade will tell you that they see very few oil related engine failures if its changed at regular service intervals. The problems come when you neglect your regular service intervals. Ala, you change your oil/filter at 3k and decide you want another oil/filter change at 20k.

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Any mechanic who has completed 3rd grade will tell you that they see very few oil related engine failures if its changed at regular service intervals. The problems come when you neglect your regular service intervals. Ala, you change your oil/filter at 3k and decide you want another oil/filter change at 20k.
i worked at river oaks chrysler and was told the same thing. with the lack of oil or vescocity(sp?) over long periods of time there will be problems. the weight and brand you use also depends on the type of riding you do. somebody who is a daily commuter, cruiser, poser, backroad, trackdays, race, etc. will also have diffrent opinions on what is best for THEIR bike. its kind of like a guy who will spend $15/qt for "great" oil just barely rides and somebody that puts race gas in a non modded engine, its just overkill.
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i dont know how turbines work, but for cars i would understand full sythethic. for motorcycles since the oil not only flows through the engine but through the tranny also, i wouldnt use synthethic for a low mileage bike espceially since you fluctuate up and down on the RPMS constantly.

i never heard of oil used in the combustion process, but i never worked on turbines or know anything about them.

i see you have a 636, how many miles?


She has about 6k on her. I switched to syn at 1500mi.
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i never heard of oil used in the combustion process, but i never worked on turbines or know anything about them.
Sorry, I should have clarified. The contaminants FROM the combustion process tend to be acidic, and do make it into the oil. If you ever tear down an engine from let's say a "classic" car or one that has been stored for a period of time w/o the oil changed before storage, you will see that the bearings will show where the acid from the old oil actually has "eaten" away at them. This is just my experience.
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But, RYP is just my preference/my opinion.

You do know what they say about opinions. LOL
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Honda GN4 is also a great oil.


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i dont know how turbines work, but for cars i would understand full sythethic. for motorcycles since the oil not only flows through the engine but through the tranny also, i wouldnt use synthethic for a low mileage bike espceially since you fluctuate up and down on the RPMS constantly.

i never heard of oil used in the combustion process, but i never worked on turbines or know anything about them.

i see you have a 636, how many miles?
my harley uses three types: non synthetic
20w50 for the motor
and the tranny oil is from HD
the turbo oil is a 5w30
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I've always used Motul 5100,with no problems, but next oil change I'm trying the Castrol R4 full synthetic. If I dont like the Castrol, I'm going back to Motul full synthetic.
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i like the motul 5100 alot but i have been running moto rex. it works great and no problems.
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i notice a little more engine noise but i hear this is normal once switching to synthetic
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R4 works good, but I also herd more engine noise than before. Royal purple sucks, made my ATV smoke big time, and a loss of power. I but motul 5100 back in the ATV and ran like a champ no smoke!

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who carries / has the best price on the motul 300v? chaning oil this week, deciding wether to buy locally, or order online. thanks!
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oh, and currently running repsol 4t...anyone locally carry that either?
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