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Old 06-16-2009, 11:01 AM   #1
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Turn Signal help

Can anyone come by my pad and help me figure out how to get my turn signals working. Willing to pay for your time and gas. Live my Reliant Stadium. I have a 06 R6 with Hotbodies flush mounts and a intergrated rear tail
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:17 AM   #2
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LEDs?

Not flashing?
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:18 AM   #3
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yeah, the front are leds, and not flashing. Do i need to any a resistor?
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Hey man, when you run all LEDs and flushmounts (particularly the 2 wires) and the integrateds its a pain in the to get working. You need to get a LED compatible relay from Cycle Gear and 2 resistors (I can get you the part numbers) from radio shack. You can come by my place Wed or Fri and we can solder in the resistors and get everything working for you. I did all the same stuff on my R6 and mine have worked perfect every since.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:25 AM   #5
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ok, I think I'm on the right track. I thought about the turn signal relay. Just was wanting someone to verify it. Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure I still have 1 resistor new in the package so all you gotta do is find 1 at a Ride Smart around here somewhere. I'll check the Ride Smart part number and let you know what it is. They were pretty cheap, like maybe $2-3 each. I believe it's 8 ohm 20w for the resistor. It's white and square shaped looks just like this.
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You need one of those on the left and right side. I soldered em in and mounted inside my tail.
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they don't sell those at cycle gear?
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they don't sell those at cycle gear?
Never seen them there. Just go to a Ride Smart, they are all over the place.

Found it, here is what you need x2.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062288

Here is the email between me and the seller of the integrated turn signal showing all the things I did to get it working.

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The flash relay did not fix the situation, but I did get it working. I figured I would share the info with you in case you come across this in the future. It was the flush mount smoked front LED signals that I bought on this same order (**********) causing the problems. They have running lights but are not 3 wires. Instead it uses the signal and running wires. It basically uses whichever wire it’s not using for the positive and puts the negative on it (a 3 wire would use a dedicated negative and not have this problem.) This works fine with stock bulbs on the rear thanks to the bulbs resistance, but with LED’s it causes problems with the running lights and blinkers. The solution was a 20 watt 8 ohm resistor on each side in place of the rear bulbs. One end on the positive the other on the negative and that solved everything. Thanks for all the help. I will be shipping the replacement taillight back ASAP.

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cool, gonna go get this and try it tonite. I'll let you know, if not I might come and see you on friday.
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cool, gonna go get this and try it tonite. I'll let you know, if not I might come and see you on friday.
Cool deal. Just let me know if you need help. I have all the tools so you don't need to go buy everything and learn how to solder if you don't already know how.
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i used the stock flasher with 2 (one for right, one for left) 20w 8 ohm ceramic resistor as shown and it worked out perfectly. They wire in parallel (one side to positive and the other to negative).
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make sure you use heat shrink for the wires (also at Ride Smart) and wrap the resistors separate from each other (I used aluminum foil). They get super hot and can melt plastic
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make sure you use heat shrink for the wires (also at Ride Smart) and wrap the resistors separate from each other (I used aluminum foil). They get super hot and can melt plastic
how long do you use your turn signal?
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how long do you use your turn signal?
integrated tail light. I tend to use the tail light quite a bit ...
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integrated tail light. I tend to use the tail light quite a bit ...
the resistor shouldn't be getting hot with the tail light...in fact, it should have no continuity until the turn signals are on. if it's getting hot without your signals, you should check your wiring.

EDIT: in no way am i saying that resistors do not get hot...

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the resistor shouldn't be getting hot with the tail light...in fact, it should have no continuity until the turn signals are on. if it's getting hot without your signals, you should check your wiring.
correct, mine only warm up when the signal is actually flashing. and its never gotten hot enough to cause any issues. i have them held to the subframe on either side of the tail compartment with zipties.
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well, I think i'm an idiot, cuz I couldn't figure how to hook this up. I changed the flasher relay, and still couldn't get anything to blink. At wits end with this bike
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A relay is the weak part of the system. When current goes through it due to a load(light bulbs for the turn signals) the relay heats up and a small piece of metal bends away from the contact, causing the circuit to open(turn signal lights off.)

When it cools, it contacts again, current flows, makes heat, pops off again...

That's the noise you hear(clicking.)

LEDs do not provide any type of a load compared to a standard bulb, let alone two... when one standard bulb goes out, the other turn signal flashes very fast...


LED turn signal system needs a resistor to make resistance in the circuit, to draw current and cause the turn signal relay to click on/off.

Pyro is on the right track.
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I believe it, just can't get to work. I'm truly an electrical idiot. Can do just about anything else, but i'm done with this. HELP. Pyro, I might have to come by your pad, but you live far away, in Pearland right?
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I believe it, just can't get to work. I'm truly an electrical idiot. Can do just about anything else, but i'm done with this. HELP. Pyro, I might have to come by your pad, but you live far away, in Pearland right?
Yep. if you wanna come by Fri we can drink some beers and knock that shiznit out mang.
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