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Old 06-10-2009, 11:06 PM   #1
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Barber Motorsports Park is awesome

I was able to make a trip out to Birmingham Alabama with my father in law to ride Barber this last Saturday and Sunday. The whole place is beautiful from the entrance on in. The track is fun needless to say... Dad took a bunch of pics while we were there and I hooked up the gopro's on Sunday. I haven't had a chance to put a lap video together yet because I wanted to get this one first...

In the afternoon on Sunday in turn 11, the front tire slid on me. That was a first for me, never felt that before. I just stayed loose and never chopped the throttle so I just kept riding.

I am hoping that some of you very experienced folks might be able to share your theories on why it slid here on this lap? What might I have been doing different to cause it?

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Old 06-11-2009, 08:04 AM   #2
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Do you have a damper?

BTW, did you take Keith Code's course this weekend? How is it? Is it worth the 1300 or is it better just to do 10 TD?
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:20 AM   #3
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Do you have a damper?

BTW, did you take Keith Code's course this weekend? How is it? Is it worth the 1300 or is it better just to do 10 TD?
I think the answer is another question, why do pros attend Keith Code's School? Because it's worth their time, and if it is worth it for them, then it is for me too.

I have found that it is worth listening, or even paying to listen, to people that know more than me on the subject. Then, after listening, the hard part is putting it into action.

If there is no way for you to ever attend one of his school days, then read his books and practice it. It's the next best thing, but works too! Twist 2 is a trackday bible.

Barber is amazing and it was a great event put on by Code's School, I would highly recommend attending his school to anyone, especially at this track. I took Level 1 at Laguna Seca years ago on a rain check from TWS (Texas World Speedway). Then I took Level's 1 & 2 this past weekend at Barber. I learned many many things that easily make me a better rider.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:24 AM   #4
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Do you have a damper?
Yes, the factory one. Which I am told is not good for much. I do not believe the damper would kick in for this because it was a slow speed bar movement. Dampers will kick in with higher speed movements. Could be wrong though...
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:28 AM   #5
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I think the answer is another question, why do pros attend Keith Code's School? Because it's worth their time, and if it is worth it for them, then it is for me too.

I have found that it is worth listening, or even paying to listen, to people that know more than me on the subject. Then, after listening, the hard part is putting it into action.

If there is no way for you to ever attend one of his school days, then read his books and practice it. It's the next best thing, but works too! Twist 2 is a trackday bible.

Barber is amazing and it was a great event put on by Code's School, I would highly recommend attending his school to anyone, especially at this track. I took Level 1 at Laguna Seca years ago on a rain check from TWS (Texas World Speedway). Then I took Level's 1 & 2 this past weekend at Barber. I learned many many things that easily make me a better rider.


I want to take one of his classes one day. Hoping to try it at least once next year.

Those are some nice camera angles and have some great picture quality.
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front end could've slid from many different reasons....

air pressure
tire limit
tire wear
suspension setup
track itself
smoothness of throttle/brake

can't give a definite answer about your question on the slide.....but i did notice you are letting off the brake too quickly. BE SMOOTH going in and out of corners....which means gradually brake, and gradually let off the brake. it'll help keep the suspension from loading and unloading too quick. same goes for the throttle.

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front end could've slid from many different reasons....

air pressure
tire limit
tire wear
suspension setup
track itself
smoothness of throttle/brake

can't give a definite answer about your question on the slide.....but i did notice you are letting off the brake too quickly. BE SMOOTH going in and out of corners....which means gradually brake, and gradually let off the brake. it'll help keep the suspension from loading and unloading too quick. same goes for the throttle.

a smooth rider is a fast rider.
Thank you, this helps more than you know... I will look forward to your comments when I post a video with some hot laps around the track... I felt like I was being conservative because it was a school event but I was able to lay down some consistent 1:47's when traffic cooperated. I am always looking for constructive criticism. Cheers.
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no problem. glad i could attempt to help.

the museum turn (or roller coaster as they call it) is by far my favorite turn there. too bad the photographer we had there sucked big fckin donkey and didn't even get 1 picture through there.
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no problem. glad i could attempt to help.

the museum turn (or roller coaster as they call it) is by far my favorite turn there. too bad the photographer we had there sucked big fckin donkey and didn't even get 1 picture through there.
Yeah, the one we had was too, he doesn't even have a website.... How can you sell photographs now and not have a website.... What's wrong with these people
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front end could've slid from many different reasons....

air pressure
tire limit
tire wear
suspension setup
track itself
smoothness of throttle/brake

can't give a definite answer about your question on the slide.....but i did notice you are letting off the brake too quickly. BE SMOOTH going in and out of corners....which means gradually brake, and gradually let off the brake. it'll help keep the suspension from loading and unloading too quick. same goes for the throttle.

a smooth rider is a fast rider.
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