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Old 03-10-2006, 02:26 PM   #41
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or "9 out of 10 people who died on motorcycles, hadn't taken the MSF".........
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this thread is going in circles.

does msf make you the perfect rider with tons of riding skills? no. but IMO if you learn the slightest thing its worth your time and money.
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Old 03-10-2006, 02:31 PM   #43
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sounds like you need to read the '06 arai thread.......lol
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90% of statistics are made up on the spot to prove the statistician's point of view.

MSF is good to curb the free wheeling USA culture, but not perfect. However, that's what you get in a country where driving is seen as a right rather than a priviledge. You want a better system, bring over European tiered licensing. Not going to happen, but it would save some lives I'm sure.
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and of those registered, how many are licensed riders? and how many unlicensed.......can't count those. cuz they're not on record.

so back to the 90%.........off all the riders that died, 90% had not taken the MSF. thats quantifiable.........X # of dead riders, X # of them took MSF..........see the logic.
i bet if he made a poll right now. his stat will be pretty accurate just in this community.

how many pass the msf?
how many have a license?

10% of people on this board most likely.

we can even throw in insurance and #s would drop to 5%, lol.
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You want a better system, bring over European tiered licensing. Not going to happen, but it would save some lives I'm sure.
+1 to the statement.

and most here, wouldn't have a license/nor bike, not sure if i would either really.
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+1 to the statement.

and most here, wouldn't have a license/nor bike, not sure if i would either really.
I'm not postitive but tiered licensing like in Europe just forces you to train/practice/learn more? Much like taking an MSF class every couple of years?
What are the statistic that show that's a better system? Just curious....I had a friend killed in Germany 2 yrs ago, on a bike, and he was a long time rider/racer that had never had an accident on the street in the states. He lost control on a curve in the rain and ran off the rode, not a high speed situation.
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google MAIDS study, latest data, unfor. it's in EURO but not here, though i've read teh DOT is supposed to be doing a new study. the last one 1, was in the 70's by Dr Hurt
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+1 to the statement.

and most here, wouldn't have a license/nor bike, not sure if i would either really.

18 years riding for me now I may still be on a 600cc if it were like that over here..... Oh wait I do ride a 600cc.........
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or "9 out of 10 people who died on motorcycles, hadn't taken the MSF".........
so? i thought we alraedy went over this... that doesn't mean anything. admit it! ADMIT IT YOU!
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bring the autobahn over too and i'll ride with euro tiered licensing :-)
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