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Old 06-07-2009, 08:23 AM   #1
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Erion Honda's Jake Zemke and Chris Peris times disallowed

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The times from Erion Honda's Jake Zemke and Chris Peris were disallowed on Friday after Superpole, even though both riders had qualified first and third, respectively.

AMA Pro has three tests for the spec Sonoco fuel and according to Colin Fraser and Bill Syfan of AMA Pro, the Erion fuel failed the dielectric portion of the test and was significantly out of the acceptable range.

It bears stating that both riders were not "disqualified" from the event, just that their times from Superpole were wiped clean and the team is now on probation.

Both riders qualified for the race on Saturday morning.

Soup attempted to get a quote on the matter from Kevin Erion, but the team owner declined to comment.

This is the first time there has been a penalty imposed since the series went to a spec fuel.

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they got off light!
imo if you're caught with anything other than the control fuel and the gas supplier does not issue a statement admitting mistake/mix-up/fault then you are cheating!!
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I agree. I thought spec fuel means all the teams get it from the same supplier. Are they allowed to modify the fuel in any way?
Seems like everyone would be out of whack if these guys were.
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Yeah, when I read that, I didn't get it.

I don't understand fuel well enough. Would evaporation affect the levels of certain compounds? I mean, wouldn't that increase the concentration of the other bits?

I have a hard time believing someone would hire an chemical engineer to tamper with the fuel.
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Failing the dielectric test generally means there's alcohol in the fuel. It could be a mistake and its just ethanol........which offers no performance advantage, but will still disqualify you, or it could be methanol.
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Failing the dielectric test generally means there's alcohol in the fuel. It could be a mistake and its just ethanol........which offers no performance advantage, but will still disqualify you, or it could be methanol.

The implication being that an additive was used then?

I'd like to hear something from Mr Erion..
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I just don't like the vague wording in all this. Spec fuel was out of spec. times disallowed, but not disqualified. To me that means they can't proved it was tampered with and that it could naturally occur.

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they got off light!
imo if you're caught with anything other than the control fuel and the gas supplier does not issue a statement admitting mistake/mix-up/fault then you are cheating!!

Its gay gay gay, and I hope the dumbass motorsuck gaggle goes under and the old ama comes back. The spec fuel is gay, gas even the oxygenated stuff is only worth a couple hp all it is is a eclusive b.s for there manufacturer. GAY!
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The implication being that an additive was used then?

I'd like to hear something from Mr Erion..
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I just don't like the vague wording in all this. Spec fuel was out of spec. times disallowed, but not disqualified. To me that means they can't proved it was tampered with and that it could naturally occur.

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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that because it was JUST a dielectric test they couldn't prove that the fuel was an advantage? Like I said, you'll fail pretty close to the same whether the fuel is tainted with ethanol or methanol. Ethanol won't make more power, but methanol will.
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