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Old 06-05-2009, 05:27 PM   #1
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2007 R6 Bike Dies

I have a 2007 R6 with aprox 17k miles. A couple months ago this problem began where when I start the bike it will idle fine, if I rev the engine (upto 6k or less) at all it will rev then die when I let off. The bike won't start up after this happens unless I give it a little gas. After it starts back up it won't stay idle I have to keep the rpm's in the 3-6k range or the bike will die. Once the bike is warmed (aprox 160F) it will idle fine.

If I allow the bike enough time to warm up (which I usually do) to about 135-160F and then try reving it doesn't die. Basically I have to let the bike idle for about 5 minutes before I can use the bike or it will die when I come to my first stop.

I read through a few threads on the R6 forums without any real solution. Most suggestions led to changing the battery, I just replaced the battery (with the same exact brand/model) but the same problem continues. I also had the 16k mile service done a few weeks ago and spark plugs were replaced.

Short of taking the bike to the dealership and leaving it there for a week or longer, does anyone have any suggestions? The bike is under warranty still so if any work needs to be performed or parts replaced I would prefer not to have to pay for it, otherwise I would just take it to Motorcycles Unlimited.

PS. This isn't normal since the bike never did this before just a couple months ago.
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1. Do you have a power commander? = they fail more than people realize.
2. Check your fuel pump.
3. Check your fuel pressure regulator.
4. check your battery cables terminals. follow the ground wire as well
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1. Do you have a power commander? = they fail more than people realize.
No

2. Check your fuel pump.
Not sure how to do this. Is it something that I can do myself with minimal tools?

3. Check your fuel pressure regulator.
Not sure how to do this. Is it something that I can do myself with minimal tools?

4. check your battery cables terminals. follow the ground wire as well
Well I just replaced the battery, the terminals are fine. I didn't follow the ground wire though. I assume it's fine since this issue only occurs on the initial startup. (for example at trackdays between sessions it starts/runs fine)

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Old 06-05-2009, 05:38 PM   #4
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I have a 2007 R6 with aprox 17k miles. A couple months ago this problem began where when I start the bike it will idle fine, if I rev the engine (upto 6k or less) at all it will rev then die when I let off. The bike won't start up after this happens unless I give it a little gas. After it starts back up it won't stay idle I have to keep the rpm's in the 3-6k range or the bike will die. Once the bike is warmed (aprox 160F) it will idle fine.

If I allow the bike enough time to warm up (which I usually do) to about 135-160F and then try reving it doesn't die. Basically I have to let the bike idle for about 5 minutes before I can use the bike or it will die when I come to my first stop.

I read through a few threads on the R6 forums without any real solution. Most suggestions led to changing the battery, I just replaced the battery (with the same exact brand/model) but the same problem continues. I also had the 16k mile service done a few weeks ago and spark plugs were replaced.

Short of taking the bike to the dealership and leaving it there for a week or longer, does anyone have any suggestions? The bike is under warranty still so if any work needs to be performed or parts replaced I would prefer not to have to pay for it, otherwise I would just take it to Motorcycles Unlimited.

PS. This isn't normal since the bike never did this before just a couple months ago.
sounds like the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor). Yamaha has recalled the TPS on 2007 R6's. I am having the same problem and getting mine replaced this week. The dealership said that it would take a day to fix.

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Old 06-05-2009, 05:44 PM   #5
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was just about to mention badapple's issue.
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mine had the same problem then a week later the battery died it turned out the positive cable was loose and now it gives me no trouble at all
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Sounds like I just have to take it to the dealership then. They told me they have a 1 week back log right now. As long as it's ready before 06/19 I should be good.
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sounds like the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor). Yamaha has recalled the TPS on 2007 R6's. I am having the same problem and getting mine replaced this week. The dealership said that it would take a day to fix.
I didn't even know about this, the bike i have has 14,000 miles on it (07 r6), but no issue of this sort yet. I'm not sure if it has had the TPS fix done by the previous owner or not...i'll have to call him and see,
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I didn't even know about this, the bike i have has 14,000 miles on it (07 r6), but no issue of this sort yet. I'm not sure if it has had the TPS fix done by the previous owner or not...i'll have to call him and see,
yea, i am having the exact same issue...it started out of the blue one day...i have 5000 miles...better to get it fixed now if it has not had it done.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:19 PM   #10
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+1 on the TPS sensor.

Thermowax not heated up all of the way when you start and TPS sensor reading wrong.
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Old 06-06-2009, 01:38 AM   #12
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Old 06-06-2009, 02:58 PM   #13
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Dropped the bike off today. According to Houston Yamaha, my specific model bike hasn't had any recalls issued. My specific model is the: YZFR6W(C). Also I am unable to find any recalls for 2007 Yamaha R6. Anyone have a website that shows the TPS recall for 2007 R6?
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check your fuel system might have a a dirty line or filter
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When the TPS went out on my son's 07 r6 Yamaha(California) said they did not know of any problem with the TPS. I have 2 friends that are well known in the motorcycle business and they will tell you they have replaced lots of these. Only the original part failed, never replaced one that was a replacement part. Houston Yamaha also said there was not a recall on our R6,but (Yamaha America) as a jesture of good faith said they would replace the part but not include the labor. Hope they made alot of money because that is my last Yamaha!
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I spoke to Katy Yamaha and they informed me of the recall and said to bring it in and they would replace it for free. They told me that they have been doing alot of these as of lately.
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higher rpm= more load/fuel requirement.

your fuel system should be fine.


Since it works after becoming warm, resistance increases w temperature. could simply be an electrical signal issue as mentioned above.
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Easiest way to check a TPS: make sure its in failable condition. Pull the connector at the end of the throttle selection shaft(3 wires.) Usually one will be the power, opposing the ground and the middle the signal. Set to continuity, pin out 1 and 2, slowly move the throttle. If the resistance dips and doesn't smoothly increase/decrease, there are glitches in the coil or magnet.
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I spoke to Katy Yamaha and they informed me of the recall and said to bring it in and they would replace it for free. They told me that they have been doing alot of these as of lately.
Really? Well I mentioned the TPS and the recall. The guy looked up my bike in the system and there were no recalls listed. He looked it up while I was sitting there, would the dealership deliberately lie to get me to pay for labor of some sort?

The other person (I think manager) that was there pulled down some binder with common problems and read out the symptoms that I stated. The solution was to have the valves adjusted. But they said they wouldn't know until they can diagnose it completely.

I'm not finding any mention of TPS recall for 07 R6 on the internet anywhere. I see it for other models like R1, FZ-6 and some others. I think I will give Yamaha Katy a call on Tuesday. Maybe I can get a quicker turnaround over there.

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