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Old 05-30-2009, 06:39 AM   #1
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Eagles Canyon

I'm goin' to Eagles Canyon.

I want to find out the opinion from the racers and the experienced trackday riders what you think. I've done 7 or 8 trackdays so far, all at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and MSR-H and I love those tracks. I'm starting to get down to mid-pack intermediate pace and I want to keep going back because I know the lines and I know where I'm losing time and what I need to work on.

My question is, at this point, what advantage do I have in going to a brand new track? I don't know the lines, I don't know my baseline, how will I improve by going to a new track?

If I sign up for intermediate, i'll probably be the slowest bike there, but that's okay.

Since I'm thinkin about ECR, I also want some protips, what do I need to look for? Quirks like how you think you're going into turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) hot always but you can always go faster, or even though you can't see the curbing over the launch at MSR-H, you can still make the turn if you think you're going in hot. What should I look for at ECR?

I'm excited and nervous about a new track. I'm going regardless of what anyone says, but I could still use a little pumping up.
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Old 05-30-2009, 07:32 AM   #2
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turn 3... (first one from pit out) you better be on the brakes when you crest the hill cus turn in sneaks up on you quick.

Turn 6... Looks chewed up at turn in but its ok. Watch the seams and sealer spots...

Turn 7... No smoothway into this blind left hander. And there's a slippery seam too.

Turn 8, if its a warm day with a dry track, be on the throttle but not too much ... Seen lotsa guys dump it there...

9 is a basic double apex,

10 you'll wanna start wide but don't... Hug the curbing so you dont exit too wide.

11 slippery seam and paint line for pit ent...

1 and 2...a quick right left after a fast straight. I'm conservative so i'm off the gas at the starters tower
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I'm goin' to Eagles Canyon.

I want to find out the opinion from the racers and the experienced trackday riders what you think. I've done 7 or 8 trackdays so far, all at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and MSR-H and I love those tracks. I'm starting to get down to mid-pack intermediate pace and I want to keep going back because I know the lines and I know where I'm losing time and what I need to work on.

My question is, at this point, what advantage do I have in going to a brand new track? I don't know the lines, I don't know my baseline, how will I improve by going to a new track?

If I sign up for intermediate, i'll probably be the slowest bike there, but that's okay.

Since I'm thinkin about ECR, I also want some protips, what do I need to look for? Quirks like how you think you're going into turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) hot always but you can always go faster, or even though you can't see the curbing over the launch at MSR-H, you can still make the turn if you think you're going in hot. What should I look for at ECR?

I'm excited and nervous about a new track. I'm going regardless of what anyone says, but I could still use a little pumping up.
Just go Matt! The thing about riding different tracks is that you will learn something new at each one! Eagles Canyon is a blast to ride!
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Just go Matt! The thing about riding different tracks is that you will learn something new at each one! Eagles Canyon is a blast to ride!
+1 Good advice. EC isn't very challenging but it is fun to ride.
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Every track should be challenging if your riding hard. :-)

Go to ECR and ride the intermediate group.
Hold your lines, and have fun!!!!!
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Every track should be challenging if your riding hard. :-)

Go to ECR and ride the intermediate group.
Hold your lines, and have fun!!!!!
No doubt......every track is a challenge. If it wasn't my grandmother would be stuffing me in turn one on the brakes!! Point being that going fast ain't easy (so I hear anyway) and if it wasn't a challenge everyone would be doing it....
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If I sign up for intermediate, i'll probably be the slowest bike there, but that's okay.

If your planning on TTD ECR on 6/6 you won't be the only slow one in intermediate.
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i crashed there....but it was my first trackday. and it was cold and a bit dewy out pretty much all day. im sure it would be a fun track otherwise.
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its a really fun layout for sure but its a little slick!!
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I'm goin' to Eagles Canyon.

I want to find out the opinion from the racers and the experienced trackday riders what you think. I've done 7 or 8 trackdays so far, all at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and MSR-H and I love those tracks. I'm starting to get down to mid-pack intermediate pace and I want to keep going back because I know the lines and I know where I'm losing time and what I need to work on.

My question is, at this point, what advantage do I have in going to a brand new track? I don't know the lines, I don't know my baseline, how will I improve by going to a new track?

If I sign up for intermediate, i'll probably be the slowest bike there, but that's okay.

Since I'm thinkin about ECR, I also want some protips, what do I need to look for? Quirks like how you think you're going into turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) hot always but you can always go faster, or even though you can't see the curbing over the launch at MSR-H, you can still make the turn if you think you're going in hot. What should I look for at ECR?

I'm excited and nervous about a new track. I'm going regardless of what anyone says, but I could still use a little pumping up.


Hey bud come on out, the advantages to coming to a new track is that you become a more versatile rider. Every track has a uniqueness like a finger print they are all different, the more that you ride it will be easier to pick up a line on new tracks and the ones that you are used to will seam more familiar. Hope this all makes sense.
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Come on and check out the new track, it will definitely teach you a thing or two by the time you leave. You will not find this elevation and camber changes at any other track. This track will teach you to brake early or late, hopefully the latter. You will learn to look at the next corner at this track. Do it and give us your opinion.
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+1 Good advice. EC isn't very hard to learn but it is challenging as any road course and fun/scary too.
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I've been wanting to hit up ECR for awhile now but no way I can make it this weekend


Learn another track, learn new skills, become a better rider!
I went to sign up last night and it says waitinglist!!!!! I was at myself and surprised.

So we are going up to Heartland Park in Topeka Kansas the following week instead.

ECR eludes me everytime for some reason, got to get there and check it out!
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What day were you planning on going to ECR? Not the 6th, this Saturday I hope because I think you might be the only one there. I read on another forum that ECR on the 6th was cancelled. You might want to double check.
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What day were you planning on going to ECR? Not the 6th, this Saturday I hope because I think you might be the only one there. I read on another forum that ECR on the 6th was cancelled. You might want to double check.
yep i heard it too... not sure if i can make it this weekend anyway.
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Track all by my self, yeah, bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No, instead we signed up for Heartland Park Topeka for Monday 15th, pumped

Been watching youtube vids of that track, looks nice. I havnt been to that facility since i drag raced there 3 years ago and its a top notch place, hopefully the road course is also.
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My question is, at this point, what advantage do I have in going to a brand new track? I don't know the lines, I don't know my baseline, how will I improve by going to a new track

tht's the question you asked so I'll speak on that in my limited experience. A new track brings uncertainty for a new rider. take that nervousness and channel it into your focus tube. Just stay more focused. it does not matter if you are the slowest one out there. if they want you to go faster, tell them pay for your gear and give you a bike to ride. as long as you hold your lines you should be ok. A new track will force you to use your reference points. especially one like ECR where there are alot of elevation changes and blind corners. it also gives you the advantage of testing your skills. if you ride the same track, you can be fast there, but are you fast at another track? watch world super bike. Guys who go to a track for the first time can still win the race because they have the skill. That's what your focus shoudl be./ Put your head down and ride...Cant give ne info on the track b/c i rode it in the cold rain and it was no fun. But I hear its a blast
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My question is, at this point, what advantage do I have in going to a brand new track? I don't know the lines, I don't know my baseline, how will I improve by going to a new track

tht's the question you asked so I'll speak on that in my limited experience. A new track brings uncertainty for a new rider. take that nervousness and channel it into your focus tube. Just stay more focused. it does not matter if you are the slowest one out there. if they want you to go faster, tell them pay for your gear and give you a bike to ride. as long as you hold your lines you should be ok. A new track will force you to use your reference points. especially one like ECR where there are alot of elevation changes and blind corners. it also gives you the advantage of testing your skills. if you ride the same track, you can be fast there, but are you fast at another track? watch world super bike. Guys who go to a track for the first time can still win the race because they have the skill. That's what your focus shoudl be./ Put your head down and ride...Cant give ne info on the track b/c i rode it in the cold rain and it was no fun. But I hear its a blast
lol focus tube.

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it's all about beng in tune with your bike, knowing and trusting what it is going to do and how to make it do what u want it to do
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it's all about beng in tune with your bike, knowing and trusting what it is going to do and how to make it do what u want it to do
, I knew this track riding thing was easy.
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