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Old 05-25-2009, 01:45 PM   #21
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there is an oil light but only comes on when key is turned to on pos then turns off. thats fin asked dealership the day i bought it about it.
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Old 05-25-2009, 01:50 PM   #22
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i would think if it had no oil , i would have lock up by now, but it would be on the dealer and i would not setle for a fix i would demand they swap bikes,

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i would think if it had no oil , i would have lock up by now, but it would be on the dealer and i would not setle for a fix i would demand they swap bikes,

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what he said, go for broke (bike swap). how long did you have the bike for? did you finance or did you pay it off cash?
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Don't ride it, don't start it, don't add oil. Trailer it or have dealer come to you to trailer it to their shop. I agree with others, if it had no oil in it, it would have siezed almost immediately.

Document in writing your observations(screws missing,smells,etc) and your conversation with dealer including dates,who you talked to,etc. Putting it in writing will always be better than verbal conversations moving forward with dealer.

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Don't ride it, don't start it, don't add oil. Trailer it or have dealer come to you to trailer it to their shop. I agree with others, if it had no oil in it, it would have siezed almost immediately.

Document in writing your observations(screws missing,smells,etc) and your conversation with dealer including dates,who you talked to,etc. Putting it in writing will always be better than verbal conversations moving forward with dealer.

Good luck!

That right there is probably good advice.

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Don't ride it, don't start it, don't add oil. Trailer it or have dealer come to you to trailer it to their shop. I agree with others, if it had no oil in it, it would have siezed almost immediately.

Document in writing your observations(screws missing,smells,etc) and your conversation with dealer including dates,who you talked to,etc. Putting it in writing will always be better than verbal conversations moving forward with dealer.

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I find this surprising, because most if not all bikes come from the factory filled with oil (for this EXACT reason), so it's not likely that the dealer failed to fill it. They clearly failed to CHECK it, however.

As a former Ducati dealer, I can confirm that the above is the correct advice. I would trailer the bike to the dealer myself. Make sure that you take with the bike from the time you show up until it's rolled into the service area and inspected. Also, after initial inspection, you want to hear the words out of the mechanic first hand - not as translated by the service writer. Personally, I would ask for a new bike. I might accept a brand new motor swap (which is most likely what Kawasaki would authorize), however I would not accept "just keep an eye on it and let us know if any problems down the road). Wrong answer. If you truly have been riding around with no oil for 400 miles, serious damage to the motor has been done, and you don't want to find out when it's going to rear it's ugly head...especially if it's mid turn while leaned over.

Make notes of everything, and if they give you a hard time, ask them if what they're offering is what the Kawasaki service advisor authorized. If they continue to give you a hard time (refusing to replace the motor), ask them if they think Kawasaki customer service would agree with their position, because you surely plan on speaking with them in the immediate future.

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Old 05-25-2009, 03:49 PM   #27
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i have had it from last sat the 16th. i took photos but not that great and thank you all i want to do this right i dont want to get stuck with i broken down bike. i also looked for any leak and every thing is clean. i hope this will be solved well so i can ride with yall soon. thanks thanks
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Are u sure it has no oil?
The breakin oil is like cooking oil.
The oil light will come on ifthe oil is low.
Maybe the oil level is high and you are seeing the oil.
I would have a bud leanthe bike way over to the left and watch the site glass
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If the oil light never came on while riding, chances are the bike is fine. The oil level light comes on when the bike runs so low on oil that no oil reaches the oil pump and oil pressure drops. This is when mechanical damage is done. Crank bearings without pressure will eat themselves up in 1 minute. I'm fairly certain your bike is fine, it just might be low on oil. Lean the bike to the side of the oil window and see when the oil ibecomes visible. This will give you an idea of how low it really is.

FYI, I've had a crappy old Honda I rode 500 miles with no oil in the window and no problems whatsoever.

I agree, don't ride it, touch it with any tools, and ask the dealership to come take a look.

Most new bikes do make a burning smell as the cosmoline or other shipping crate oil / rust preventer burns off the hot parts.

Good luck! WIld West should stand behind what they did or didn"t do. They seem pretty stand up.
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ok i bought a small light and put it in the motor to get a better look and there is vary little oil it does not touch the chain in the case.
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Old 05-26-2009, 01:33 AM   #32
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ok i bought a small light and put it in the motor to get a better look and there is vary little oil it does not touch the chain in the case.
i don't think I could tell how much oil is in any of my bikes by looking down the fill hole.
Again get some help lean the bike over both sides and watch for the oil to either rise or drop.
where do u live?
I am in Cypress and off for the next 4 days. can stop by and help you look at it if u want.
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Dude I got a similar problem with team mancuso off 59 south They sold me a bad bike from the get go and don't thk the bike is bad .don't let that place try to f--- u over cause that's what there trying to do to me right now. And I'm not done messing with them .
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Dude I got a similar problem with team mancuso off 59 south They sold me a bad bike from the get go and don't thk the bike is bad .don't let that place try to f--- u over cause that's what there trying to do to me right now. And I'm not done messing with them .
mind sharing what happened? what steps are you following to get the issue resolved? how is mancuso handling the situation? sorry for all the questions, just curious
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All the advise above is very good. If you can tip the bike to the right while checking the level and the oil touches the bottom of the sight glass you could be only a quart low.

Has your bike been running hotter? Lack of lubrication would cause the metal to expand more and damage to the cylinderwalls due to lack of volume to create pressure and lubricate the rings. Once damaged the vacuum from the cylinders could actually burn more gas.

Keep everything documented well, write out your perspective w dates, times and names. Go over it several times; remind the dealer and allow them to see your documentation but do not offer it to them right away unless they want to argue over not servicing your concerns.

UNLESS you sign a workorder your phone calls or even visits will not be documented from the factories' eyes. Consider that in your arguements. They will see you came it an mileage complaining w no oil in the bike; clearly in their self-defensive view you were not maintaining it properly by checking fluids. Be ready to fight.
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