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Old 05-21-2009, 10:39 PM   #1
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Well I made it to Houston after over 24 hours of driving. Any tips on driving on these things you guys call roads? Seems like im going to get squashed on the bike! Look forward to seeing you guys out there. Ill be the only one with a coat and gloves on from the looks of things. Alot of t shirts and no helmets out there.

Hopefully I can get a job squared away and get some free time to ride. Anyone want to hook me up with a nice tie and shirt job selling stuff or somethign?

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Old 05-21-2009, 10:41 PM   #2
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welcome!

most of us here at MH wear our gear...and we poke at our friends whom dont. lol

If you are free tomorrow, we are going on an all day ride....

starts in SE houston. Check in the events section under "friday ride."
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Houston is full of gearless squids, you will find though a good majority of the frequent MHers know the importance of gear.

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Any tips on not getting run over in traffic? Just seen how the people down here make their own rules. Just gota get used to it i suppose...
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Be very very alert when driving in Houston traffic. I rarely do it anymore because some of these peeps round here scare the out of me.
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ride like their out to get you...hate to tell you this but some of them ARE.

someone posted a thread last week or something about creeps in duallie trucks trying to run them off the road.

squids in houston are dime a dozen. splitting lanes with helmets strapped to the back of their bike... :(

the general attitude here is gear is good. we even have a some 1500 post thread to point and laugh at the people who dont gear up or ride like idiots...its the "wall of shame" thread.

enjoy, there is some really funny stuff in here...


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need to carry good unisured and underinsured insurance coverage. Lots of the locals don't have insurance or have the bare minimum. Not even enough to cover your meds if you have some time in the hospital. Coverage is cheap for good UMPD/UMBI like 50-100 a year. -Nick
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1st Welcome to MH

You will definately see allot of gearless folks out there. Allot of good people here on MH and majority wear the gear.
What side of Houston are you in?
South east side here. I only work 14 days a month, so riding is no issue here.
Gear up, ride safe and be defensive, and keep the sticky side down.
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Any tips on not getting run over in traffic? Just seen how the people down here make their own rules. Just gota get used to it i suppose...
Be very alert. Know where you're going. The "Oh ! I shoulda turned there!" gets followed closely by SPLAT if you try to make that corner last-second.

For the most part, once you get used to the nature of the drivers here it's not so bad. The occasional dumbass texting while driving, but I'd take Houston drivers over most other cities I've been to.
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As a former troll here are some points I had to get used to.
1) Tailgating will not get the person in front to move over.
2) Everyone will slow down going over any type of hill (sight distance?)
3) People will match your speed and drive next to you. Drastic speed changes do work, I recommend accelerating because if you slow so will they and you will eventually catch back up to them.
4) No one uses cruise control (well almost).
5) People will slow if they see a popo even if they are doing the speed limit. You should already know this, but move over for a cop stopped on the side of the road. If you can't the law says you have to slow to 20mph under the limit when in the lane next to them.
6) Be extremely watchful if there is an accident. People will rubberneck like crazy and will rear end each other. This is worse the farther the lane is from the accident. Move along there is nothing for you to see.
7) Going fast will keep most obstacles in your field of view. Going slow in the right lane is a pain because people entering the freeway have the right of way and don't even bother to match speed.
8) No one gets into the lane they need to be in until the solid white line has changed to the split white lines just before the impact barrels. Watch accordingly.
9) If you are tailgating then try to pass on the right the car/truck in front will try to cut you off. If you swing back to the left they will do it again. Don't press people. These people have the "I am more important than you" attitude more than anyplace else I have lived.
10) HOV (high occupancy vehicle) lanes can be ridden with one up motorcycles.
11) If in a line of cars predict the most likely lane that will try to merge into yours and ride so that they can see you behind the car in front of you. E.g. left lane ride so that the middle lane can see you (right side of lane). A bit creepy at first 'cause you are closer to the danger, but otherwise if they only see a gap between the car/truck in front of and behind you they won't even check before moving over.
12) Turn signals are optional equipment on vehicles here (not). A car/truck will usually signal by crowding towards the lane they intend to enter. This is generally done right next to a vehicle in the target lane and combined with a gradual deceleration. Once the car/truck bumpers have .001" clearance then the encroaching vehicle will swerve quickly into the target lane. Slow down and let them in or bail on the target lane to give these idiots space.
I hope this helps. I commute on I45 from Galveston to Houston daily and see all kinds of stupid chit. I ride with helmet, gauntlet gloves, Textile jacket with integrated armor and upgraded back protector, textile pants with hip armor, knee/shin pads, Mil spec reflective vest, and moto specific boots. ATGATT. Oh and loud exhausts have helped reduce the lane merger dumba$$es.
Good luck, have fun and be safe.
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Be careful if u put on ur blinker it gives your position away to the houstonian, they will use strong tactics to keep u behind them.
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As a former troll here are some points I had to get used to.
1) Tailgating will not get the person in front to move over.
2) Everyone will slow down going over any type of hill (sight distance?)
3) People will match your speed and drive next to you. Drastic speed changes do work, I recommend accelerating because if you slow so will they and you will eventually catch back up to them.
4) No one uses cruise control (well almost).
5) People will slow if they see a popo even if they are doing the speed limit. You should already know this, but move over for a cop stopped on the side of the road. If you can't the law says you have to slow to 20mph under the limit when in the lane next to them.
6) Be extremely watchful if there is an accident. People will rubberneck like crazy and will rear end each other. This is worse the farther the lane is from the accident. Move along there is nothing for you to see.
7) Going fast will keep most obstacles in your field of view. Going slow in the right lane is a pain because people entering the freeway have the right of way and don't even bother to match speed.
8) No one gets into the lane they need to be in until the solid white line has changed to the split white lines just before the impact barrels. Watch accordingly.
9) If you are tailgating then try to pass on the right the car/truck in front will try to cut you off. If you swing back to the left they will do it again. Don't press people. These people have the "I am more important than you" attitude more than anyplace else I have lived.
10) HOV (high occupancy vehicle) lanes can be ridden with one up motorcycles.
11) If in a line of cars predict the most likely lane that will try to merge into yours and ride so that they can see you behind the car in front of you. E.g. left lane ride so that the middle lane can see you (right side of lane). A bit creepy at first 'cause you are closer to the danger, but otherwise if they only see a gap between the car/truck in front of and behind you they won't even check before moving over.
12) Turn signals are optional equipment on vehicles here (not). A car/truck will usually signal by crowding towards the lane they intend to enter. This is generally done right next to a vehicle in the target lane and combined with a gradual deceleration. Once the car/truck bumpers have .001" clearance then the encroaching vehicle will swerve quickly into the target lane. Slow down and let them in or bail on the target lane to give these idiots space.
I hope this helps. I commute on I45 from Galveston to Houston daily and see all kinds of stupid chit. I ride with helmet, gauntlet gloves, Textile jacket with integrated armor and upgraded back protector, textile pants with hip armor, knee/shin pads, Mil spec reflective vest, and moto specific boots. ATGATT. Oh and loud exhausts have helped reduce the lane merger dumba$.
Good luck, have fun and be safe.
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:50 AM   #13
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Be careful if u put on ur blinker it gives your position away to the houstonian, they will use strong tactics to keep u behind them.
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ride ULTRA defensive. I personally recommend "semi" aggressive riding for commuting as if you just "troll" along they'll be up in your non existent grill in no time. I recommend you move reasonably through traffic and position yourself at all times remembering they'll not use blinkers and swerve into your lane, and have your exit constantly in mind, whether it be on the white line to split to avoid or brake (if someones not on your tail)..

my experince from almost 2 years of daily riding in Houston. It's a beast out there so be prepared.
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Just so everyone knows the troll reference. This is a Michigan specific term. Since there is the upper and lower peninsulas in Michigan those whole live in the upper are known as yoopers (pronounced you-pers) while those on the lower are known as trolls. This is due to the Mackinac (pronounced mack-ih-naw) bridge and living in the lower peninsula means you live under the bridge which leads to the fairy tale monster in the three billy goats gruff = thus we were trolls.
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Don't forget about turning lanes. For some reason here when you have two lanes that can turn the drivers on the outside lane feel they have the right of way to take the inside lane at the apex of the turn. This happens to me almost every work day turning from the Katy Freeway onto Hwy 6. It doesn't matter what you're driving or riding they will take the lane without even glancing in your direction. Be prepared to accelerate and re-merge into the lane you aready had.
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Ride faster than the speed of traffic to stay visible. Might result in a ticket or two but that's more like a tax of riding a bike. Also if you keep your insurance up to date and treat cops politely, 95% chance they'll let you off with a warning.
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Looks like Im going to start driving it Tuesday. Insurance needs to be taken off storage. 249 still scares me a bit but FM 1960 and Jones road around where I live are a breeze. So anyone in the Cypress woods area that wants to go for a ride give me a buzz and i would love to tag along. 231 342 5964
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