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Old 05-20-2009, 12:16 PM   #21
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I'm all about respect too. Of course I think it should be earned instead of demanded just because I have 10 other guys with me that have the same jacket on. Most guys in biker gangs are tied to some kind of shady and only joined for their own personal gain. That family stuff is just a crock of . They kill their own just as quick as anyone else.
To anyone who knows anything about the MC world, that respect HAS been earned. One does not just become a patch in a 1% club by mistake.

No, most guys in MCs are NOT tied to some shady .

The reasons WHY they joined are as varied as the reasons people join anything.

The family stuff is absolutely NOT a crock of .

No, they will not kill their own as quick as anyone else. Quite the opposite in fact.

I am going to assume you know nothing about the MC world except what you've seen on TV. Suffice it to say, you could not be more wrong if you tried.
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To anyone who knows anything about the MC world, that respect HAS been earned. One does not just become a patch in a 1% club by mistake.

No, most guys in MCs are NOT tied to some shady .

The reasons WHY they joined are as varied as the reasons people join anything.

The family stuff is absolutely NOT a crock of .

No, they will not kill their own as quick as anyone else. Quite the opposite in fact.

I am going to assume you know nothing about the MC world except what you've seen on TV. Suffice it to say, you could not be more wrong if you tried.

Well, I'm refferring to real motorcycle gangs, not the weekend warriors you see up at the Hawg stop on sunday. I personally know 2 members of a gang mentioned in this thread and they are both dirty. Thats just the 2 that I know.
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Well, I'm refferring to real motorcycle gangs, not the weekend warriors you see up at the Hawg stop on sunday. I personally know 2 members of a gang mentioned in this thread and they are both dirty. Thats just the 2 that I know.
So was I - and I know a LOT more than two members of the Bandidos.

Just because the two YOU may or may not be involved in extra legal activity, do not be a 'tard and assume everyone is the same.

So basically, you were talking out your , right?
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So was I - and I know a LOT more than two members of the Bandidos.

Just because the two YOU may or may not be involved in extra legal activity, do not be a 'tard and assume everyone is the same.

So basically, you were talking out your , right?

Yes, I'm talking out my dude.
I'm sorry, your right, most, if not all MC gang members are fine upstanding Americans worthy of both my respect and admiration. They are all victims of the media stereotyping them together for the very few bad apples that slip by their stringent screening process.
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Yes, I'm talking out my dude.
I'm sorry, your right, most, if not all MC gang members are fine upstanding Americans worthy of both my respect and admiration. They are all victims of the media stereotyping them together for the very few bad apples that slip by their stringent screening process.
Most of them ARE.

I'm not saying there aren't SOME who may engage in, lets just say, questionable activity. However, it is not a requirement to be in the club, and it certainly isn't SANCTIONED by the club.

While I agree 100% that respect is earned, not granted, that center patch is strong indicator that the man wearing it most assuredly HAS earned respect. It tells others that he is absolutely a man of his word who will stand up for himself, his family and his brothers no matter what.

To a very large degree, most clubs are victims of media stereotyping.

Unless you've seen that world for real my friend, do not insult what you do not understand. Ignorance does not excuse rudeness.
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if you must punish those who do not respect you, and you have territory to defend, your respect is built by "street cred"..you are not a club. you are a gang.

if they were pureed by cuisine art blending, and compressed, into frozen huma-cubes, stuck in a freezer or sprayed across farmland by helicopter blades on a warm summer day, for flies to dine on sweet human nectar remains off of..

no loss of sleep over gang members by me..

now a "club" or group, that does not have such issues... well then different story, i feel for those that were killed off for no real reason.

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if you must punish those who do not respect you, and you have territory to defend, your respect is built by "street cred"..you are not a club. you are a gang.

if they were pureed by cuisine art blending, and compressed, into frozen huma-cubes, stuck in a freezer or sprayed across farmland by helicopter blades on a warm summer day, for flies to dine on sweet human nectar remains off of..

no loss of sleep over gang members by me..
The OP wasnt about punishing a lack of respect.

I suspect what happened is the dead guys refused to give up the colors. Colors are club property. Club took them back. Canadian guys strongly disagreed. Canadian guys lost the argument and caught a case of dead.
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i understand, clearly..but i'm not shocked over it. thats what gangs do. i just dont see the reason for "WTF?.."

it was a message clearly sent...gangs have a nice way of getting points across, being done ONE time, and not having to repeat themselves..
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I know 2 members and they are the coolest guys. They are freinds of my Ex-husbands uncle and I have known them for years. One time in a bar in April of 08 I thought they were going to kick this guys for messing with me big time. They told me that you don't disrespect, too bad they didn't know what a pos my ex was... would have saved me the cost of my divorce
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While I agree 100% that respect is earned, not granted, that center patch is strong indicator that the man wearing it most assuredly HAS earned respect. It tells others that he is absolutely a man of his word who will stand up for himself, his family and his brothers no matter what.
really? thanks for clarifying that, next time one of those guys wearing a patch asks me for a loan, I will just lend the money to him/her, after all he has a patch on his back

Sorry but that is just plain old and smelly BS, he has earned the respect and trust of THAT group, not mine.

Oooh and BTW, you are confirming the typical stereotype of the MC, we are having a nice talk here and you are throwing insults, so guess what read the sentence in red above.
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Well, I'm refferring to real motorcycle gangs, not the weekend warriors you see up at the Hawg stop on sunday. I personally know 2 members of a gang mentioned in this thread and they are both dirty. Thats just the 2 that I know.
The hawg stop is where I saw the guy, haha
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The national president of the amigos ( support group of the bandidos) resides in good ol' magnolia. I been told he normally never travels anywhere without about 5 of his men with him. They sport the red/yellow and always got the s.y.l.b stickers and patches on them. Every guy i know/ have met in the gang is a pretty cool guy. You can't judge a book by it's cover though.
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Too uptight lI feel like I can easily offend in alot of these cruiser/harley groups like they are all supposed to be bad 's but At a couple blue santa's I have met cruiser groups that are very outgoing and jolly? Just happy to look at my "" bike One time ran into a group said its pretty and that they would break it if they sat on it, i said yeah its weight limit is four hundred pounds, after they all laughed until red, they shot a couple back and invited me to ride in their group during the event, showed some sport bike fun, super man, sit on the tank, some random non aggressive shananigans. greatest harley riders I ever met.
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really? thanks for clarifying that, next time one of those guys wearing a patch asks me for a loan, I will just lend the money to him/her, after all he has a patch on his back
He wouldn't ask you for a loan.
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Sorry but that is just plain old and smelly BS, he has earned the respect and trust of THAT group, not mine.
Perhaps not, but you should certainly realize he is not just a criminal.
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Oooh and BTW, you are confirming the typical stereotype of the MC, we are having a nice talk here and you are throwing insults, so guess what read the sentence in red above.
In what way? I haven't insulted anyone. Pointing out someone's ignorance is not an insult. We are all ignorant of many things.
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Too uptight lI feel like I can easily offend in alot of these cruiser/harley groups like they are all supposed to be bad 's but At a couple blue santa's I have met cruiser groups that are very outgoing and jolly? Just happy to look at my "" bike One time ran into a group said its pretty and that they would break it if they sat on it, i said yeah its weight limit is four hundred pounds, after they all laughed until red, they shot a couple back and invited me to ride in their group during the event, showed some sport bike fun, super man, sit on the tank, some random non aggressive shananigans. greatest harley riders I ever met.
Are there in the MC world? Sure there are. Are there great guys that you could trust with your life? Absolutely. There's also everything in-between.

Assuming they are all criminals is just stupid though, and I find it offensive.

At the end of the day, its all the same wind and two wheels is two wheels.
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Dude, I know many of these people personally, and while they have never done wrong by me, they are actuall pretty cool peeps, I am carefull to keep my distance, They are all (outlaw MC's) on the ATF organized crime watch list... If there wasn't any reason for that, they wouldn't be..There is such a thing as guilt by association whether we like it or not....
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...as long as you aren't wearing colors that someone else doesn't think you should be allowed to wear...

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...as long as you aren't wearing colors that someone else doesn't think you should be allowed to wear...

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...as long as you aren't wearing colors that someone else doesn't think you should be allowed to wear...

You can wear red and gold and they don't mind. Wear the club patch without permission? Thats a WHOLE different story.

The patch belongs to the CLUB, not to you.
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