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Old 05-19-2009, 08:10 PM   #41
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Old 05-19-2009, 08:49 PM   #42
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I'm with you on that. There are guys that buy 10-12K machines and drop 5-7K into them to make them what they want. The 21K Streetfighter already comes with all the goodies so there is not much more to do to it.
and that SF will still be worth what in 5yrs while a comparable will be worth what?
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If they had the opportunity to own this bike, they wouldn't turn it down so.
Granted, my panties are in no kind of wad, I would be first in line to refuse the BK.

I'd gladly sell it to top bidder and buy a little six-hundy.
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First I do not beleive this guy who says he took a spin on a Duc Sf, that has to be a huge lie, unless you are the CEO of a dealer or work for one you have no access to the keys of this bike.

About the Bk vs SF, come on are you for real, you want to compare THE FERRARI of motorcycles to a HYUNDAY, exclusive yes because is so ugly man good luck selling that.
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Wow, I had not realized how much vehement anger and resentment I would attract from all those who mindlessly worship at the alter of Milan

How much does Ducati pay you guys?
It's not so much anyone's vehement anger and resentment towards the B-King, as it your pervasive insistance that the B-King is a far superior bike over the Streetfighter.

The B-King has impressive numbers and specs... no doubt, but its looks have alot to be desired, and thus its poor sales. It has alot of potential, though, with all that brute power.
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and that SF will still be worth what in 5yrs while a comparable will be worth what?
The only way I would buy one is to wait five years when the price dropped. Neither bike will be what it's worth now in five years. Maybe a Desmosidici because of the limited run.
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First I do not beleive this guy who says he took a spin on a Duc Sf, that has to be a huge lie, unless you are the CEO of a dealer or work for one you have no access to the keys of this bike.

About the Bk vs SF, come on are you for real, you want to compare THE FERRARI of motorcycles to a HYUNDAY, exclusive yes because is so ugly man good luck selling that.
Clearly noone would assume you're biased
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Wow, I had not realized how much vehement anger and resentment I would attract from all those who mindlessly worship at the alter of Milan

How much does Ducati pay you guys?
So let me get this straight: we either agree with you (that your bike is the shiz) or we mindlessly worship ducati. Is that how you treat your customers too?
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First I do not beleive this guy who says he took a spin on a Duc Sf, that has to be a huge lie, unless you are the CEO of a dealer or work for one you have no access to the keys of this bike.
Bike dealers allow test rides. Did you actually read the OP?
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Stock B- King dyno numbers at more like 161.RWHP. I too am not a Duc loyalist, I prefer Hondas any day of the week. But given the choice between the DUC and the BK only a COMPLETE idiot would take the BK. Or maybe someone who is into exclusivity? DOn't see that as a selling point as it was too ugly to continue. I'd love to hear the salesmans line on that one.....
Put me on the list as one who would not ride a FREE BK. A man must have principles and mine say don't run fugly bikes.
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I don't really care for it personally. Looks cobbled together and not like something that would roll off the assembly line at Ducati.
You wanna have a duc and also a bad assed streetfighter, then just throw some risers and dirt bike bars on a rashed up 1098/1198.
Get full power and all the sick superbike components.
At least it would be one of a kind.
You mean this beast???
Also from the new French Hypermotard web site, i was surprised by this:
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He claims 165kg dry for 165hp
His tank is expected at 18.5L compared to the 12.5L of the Hyper

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It's not so much anyone's vehement anger and resentment towards the B-King, as it your pervasive insistance that the B-King is a far superior bike over the Streetfighter.

The B-King has impressive numbers and specs... no doubt, but its looks have alot to be desired, and thus its poor sales. It has alot of potential, though, with all that brute power.
I NEVER said the B-King was a far superior motorcycle, but that it is MORE motorcycle for your money than the Streetfighter.

Despite its smooth, unbelievable amount of power, it also has AMAZING handling characteristics. There are two things that have killed it in the marketplace: styling and marketing.

As evidenced by the lemmings from ducati, there is much controversy over its styling. The main focus has been over the exhaust system, which I have improved, dramatically. So that issue is over.

If you don't like the rest of it, then so be it. I LOVE it.

I laugh when I hear that the Duc streetfighter will outhandle it, when no one with an opinion has ridden either bike - it's just funny!

I have ridden several Duc's as well as the B-king. The Ducs do have incredible handling, which is why I am so impressed with my B-King. So many people say that horsepower is not important to them, but they turn around and justify their expenditure for a 1000cc sportbike that is uncomfortable to ride as their "need for speed".

Well, I'm not gonna sit here and make fun of them, I bought a B-King for chrissakes! But, I quickly fell out of love with my duc when a bone stock Aprilia checked out on me on the back straight at Road Atlanta. I would spend the rest of the lap just to catch their tail, when we would hit the back straight, and start all over again. That was with a BUILT Duc motor. (Which costs a FORTUNE to make it as fast as a stock 750!)

If the B-King was just another horsepower brute (can anyone say VMax?) then they would have a point. What makes the B-king so special is that it FASTER than a VMax in a straight line, AND stop as well as any streetbike, AND hang with ANY OTHER sportbike in the turns.

It seems that everyone who says it doesn't handle well doesn't know what they are talking about. Typical.

Again, I honestly believe that the B-King is WAY MORE (street) motorcycle for your money than ANYTHING from Ducati. That is my ONLY point!
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I NEVER said the B-King was a far superior motorcycle, but that it is MORE motorcycle for your money than the Streetfighter.
Which is essentially another way of saying its superior.

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Despite its smooth, unbelievable amount of power, it also has AMAZING handling characteristics. There are two things that have killed it in the marketplace: styling and marketing.
I seriously doubt it outhandles an italian. I've been on only a scant few bikes that will outhandle a stock italian. I've had several gixxers including an '07 1k and none of them turned in as well as my bone stock '01 Aprilia. Now you want to tell me that a phyiscally larger motor stuffed into a similar frame as my '07 1k is amazing? No way.

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As evidenced by the lemmings from ducati, there is much controversy over its styling. The main focus has been over the exhaust system, which I have improved, dramatically. So that issue is over.
Definetly not a ducati lemming. Its sad that you take this viewpoint: either we like your bike or we're lemmings.


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I laugh when I hear that the Duc streetfighter will outhandle it, when no one with an opinion has ridden either bike - it's just funny!
Yea, its totally impossible to know based on any experience with similar offerings from the manufacturers how these bikes will handle.

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I have ridden several Duc's as well as the B-king. The Ducs do have incredible handling, which is why I am so impressed with my B-King. So many people say that horsepower is not important to them, but they turn around and justify their expenditure for a 1000cc sportbike that is uncomfortable to ride as their "need for speed".
Some is good, more is better. Too much (1300cc) is still too much.

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Well, I'm not gonna sit here and make fun of them, I bought a B-King for chrissakes! But, I quickly fell out of love with my duc when a bone stock Aprilia checked out on me on the back straight at Road Atlanta. I would spend the rest of the lap just to catch their tail, when we would hit the back straight, and start all over again. That was with a BUILT Duc motor. (Which costs a FORTUNE to make it as fast as a stock 750!)
Obviously you had an old 916 or something. An '05ish CBR1000RR would walk away from my Aprilia.

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If the B-King was just another horsepower brute (can anyone say VMax?) then they would have a point. What makes the B-king so special is that it FASTER than a VMax in a straight line, AND stop as well as any streetbike, AND hang with ANY OTHER sportbike in the turns.
On the street sure. I seriously doubt you can carve on the track like any other sportbike. I will admit that the highsides are probably spectacular though.
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It seems that everyone who says it doesn't handle well doesn't know what they are talking about. Typical.
You're right. I've never owned a big displacement suzuki and done a trackday on it. I've never owned a vtwin italian and done a trackday on it.

Well, except for my '01 Aprilia and my '07 gixxer 1k.

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Again, I honestly believe that the B-King is WAY MORE (street) motorcycle for your money than ANYTHING from Ducati. That is my ONLY point!
its not a point its an opinion
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Also from the new French Hypermotard web site, i was surprised by this:
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