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Old 05-12-2009, 12:54 PM   #41
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Lots of crazy advice for a guy who admits he had a blast riding an XR100. I trail rode my various XR100's for years and moved up to a CRF150F. Love it. I can ride it pretty hard, it's slow but has enough power to entertain me, and the suspension lets me stay seated over roots and bumps. I've had cr125's, YZ125's, RM250's, XR's... I have an XR400. It's big and fast and a great woods bike. But also very heavy, hard to lift, hard to u-turn, etc... Each bike has a general purpose in mind when built. Based on what you state above I'd look at the following bikes, in order from XR100 to XR250. I'd stay away from full size motorcross two strokes and four strokes, unless you plan to hit the track and really need power and suspension.

As far as four strokes go, moving up from an XR100 kinda goes like this, from Honda nad Yamaha mainly, that's what I know. (weights are my relative guesses). All are ultra low maintenance trail bikes (oil every 3 months, piston once a decade):


16/19 smaller wheeled bikes:

XR 80/100 5-6 HP, no suspension, terrible brakes 180 lbs 45 mph

TTR 125 10 HP, basic suspension, front disk, e start available 190 lbs 50 mph

CRF150F 12 HP, good woods suspension, front disk, e start after 2006 220 lbs 55 mph

18 / 21 inch wheel bikes, smaller in stature than full size motorcross / enduros:

XR200 (replaced by CRF230) 14 HP, kick start, headlight!, 230 lbs, 75 MPH, ultra reliable, drum brake is lacking, but they are cheap.

TTR 225/230 16 HP, disks, e-start, kinda heavy 240 lbs 65-70 mph, great all around play bike

CRF230F 16 HP, same body as 150F above with bigger bore, wheels 220 lbs Available in dual sport 65-70 mph great play bike, can ride motorcross if you don't mind having to opt out on the bigger jumps.

XR250 18 HP, almost full size, 240 lbs, nice all around trail bike, 240 lbs 75-80 MPH, available in dual sport version, can do limited motorcross.

KLX250F, nicely redone for 2009, 19 HP, nice features and comfort, 250 lbs, Available in dual sport 85 mph, basically the same as an XR250, with more performance.

Above that, you're in a different league of riding. Less play, more serious. All of these bikes offer advantages over "real" dirt bikes:

1. Less tire wear
2. Virtually maintenance free
3. Easy to control power delivery, so anyone can ride. Good for inexperienced friends / wives / kids
4. Easy to buy and sell with a ready market and little depreciation. People buying in this category don't want / need latest and greatest bikes.
5. Less chance for injury, all things equal
6. Lower seat heights help woods and mud riding
7. No premix of gas, can almost all be run on 87 pump.
8. Quiet exhaust - neighborhood friendly
9. Indifferent to state of tune: no jetting or fiddling required for high altitudes or winter / summer temps. Just kick (or press magic button) and ride.
10. Some street legal



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Old 05-12-2009, 12:59 PM   #42
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Stay away from the 4 strokes. They are for girls. Get you a cr250 about a 99 model. you should be able to find one around 2 g's. They are real fast and will be able to take your weight. they also jump nice and can take alot of abuse. I have 3 2stroke dirtbikes a 2stroke 4wheeler and 2 4stroke dirtbikes. 4strokes are nice to just cruise around on but are no fun and don't sound as cool as a 2stroke. you can rebuild a 2stroke in a couple hours if you have your parts on you. Also if you pay about 2g's for a 250 you can sell it for that in a year or 2 if its not f'd up. you might could get away with a 125 if you weren't trying to haul anywhere. my $0.02
lol 4 strokes are for chicks??? i grew up on a 2 stroke but i'll spank some on a 4 stroke.... unless your a fast intermediate..... or pro..

but +1 to maintenance on a 2 stroke... can't beat the simplicity..

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Honey, you have never seen me ride. So dont pass judgment on you know nothing about.

well find a place for us to ride.dirt street woods i dont care.ill school your on my 1982 z50 lol
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well find a place for us to ride.dirt street woods i dont care.ill school your on my 1982 z50 lol
I never once said I wanted to race you or 'school you'... I was just saying dont pass judgment on my riding ability when you havent really seen me ride...

reading comprehension 101...

Why is it with some men its always 'Im better than you, faster than you'... Always gotta whip it out and have a measuring contest. Put your testosterone and ego away... Its immature and annoying...
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cause iam gang like that and bored at work
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dirtbikes are fun....almost as fun as dragging knee, but not quite... Significantly cheaper too.
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get to work and make my money bish!
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Im 5'6" and ride a Suzuki Rm 250. What do you mean tight woods? Thats all I ride! Nat forest, spring creek, and others. The 250 for a guy your size is a toy. You got a Busa??? Grow a pair then! A good tricked 250 2 stroke is cheap, easy to work on (yes you will do some minor work), and could easily be in the 50 Hp range. Great bike for a guy your size. TRUST ME ITS MORE FUN TO BE IN THE FRONT THROWING ROOST THAN IN THE REAR EATING IT!!!!

its just that i rode out in crosby and its allll 4wheelers and whatnot, there are some areas where stradling the bike and riding the edge of heavily forested areas with a drop off into some deep deep , or the really sandy part, lol, i layed that little xr100 down 3 times trying to get ballsy in the sand. im a super novice on that terrain, and im not gunna be hauling out there, on the xr i saw 4 gear once in the day time... the brakes blow nuts on that thing.
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its just that i rode out in crosby and its allll 4wheelers and whatnot, there are some areas where stradling the bike and riding the edge of heavily forested areas with a drop off into some deep deep , or the really sandy part, lol, i layed that little xr100 down 3 times trying to get ballsy in the sand. im a super novice on that terrain, and im not gunna be hauling out there, on the xr i saw 4 gear once in the day time... the brakes blow nuts on that thing.
i think you just answered your problem. you need a big utility four wheeler.

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nah screw that. too much money for just a 4wheeler. i had a blast on the dbike. everybody was like, , your the smartest one out here. (bc i wasent getting stuck and passing everyone up and going back to help people get unstuck.) anywho.... hows this look

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nah screw that. too much money for just a 4wheeler. i had a blast on the dbike. everybody was like, , your the smartest one out here. (bc i wasent getting stuck and passing everyone up and going back to help people get unstuck.) anywho.... hows this look

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yeah plus im like addicted to monster so i was sold after reading about the monster plastics. but for real though, with him needing to sell asap im sure i could knock off a few c notes off the price.
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i think that was the first year honda switched to the aluminum perimeter frame. that would be perfect. keep looking cause i think you can do better
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awww someone who believes in me.... i feel special.
hey so did you get rid of the tard?
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hey so did you get rid of the tard?
nope. its going back to my street killa
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