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Old 05-11-2009, 07:35 AM   #1
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WSB ... I'm sold... SPOILER!!

Okay, after watching this weekend's racing, I'm sold. AMA Pros and MotoGP aren't anywhere near as exciting. I don't know what WSB has done, but I think they got the formula right. Good close racing, fighting for every position ... man Spies... another awesome round for the rookie.
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Okay, after watching this weekend's racing, I'm sold. AMA Pros and MotoGP aren't anywhere near as exciting. I don't know what WSB has done, but I think they got the formula right. Good close racing, fighting for every position ... man Spies... another awesome round for the rookie.


It was pretty exciting to watch.
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Old 05-11-2009, 08:32 AM   #4
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Spies should of had a double win , shame to run out of gas on the last corners of the last lap
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SBK does have very exciting races. The guys in Moto GP have MAD skillz but the racing isn't as intense as SBK, or should I say the margins of victory are greater.... ot it seems to me. The competition stays close and that is what fans love to see, close racing
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Okay, after watching this weekend's racing, I'm sold. AMA Pros and MotoGP aren't anywhere near as exciting. I don't know what WSB has done, but I think they got the formula right. Good close racing, fighting for every position ... man Spies... another awesome round for the rookie.
WSBK just has a big field of GREAT riders AND GREAT bikes/teams. Same with WSS.

AMA, there is just a big experience gap between most of the riders, plus you have to take into mind there are a lot of privateers.......some paying for their own parts out of pocket. AMA is dead to me. Unless Larry is going to be on tv.

MotoGP is the same with AMA, only it's a developmental gap between the bikes.
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AMA just seems so amatureish ... not in the level of skills but in prodution ... MotoGP is Formula One where the team with the most money wins on technology. WSB remindes me of CART back in the 80's and early 90's where rider/driver skills was the difference and passing was the norm.
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AMA just seems so amatureish ... not in the level of skills but in prodution ... MotoGP is Formula One where the team with the most money wins on technology. WSB remindes me of CART back in the 80's and early 90's where rider/driver skills was the difference and passing was the norm.
More money on the world stage my friend. There is just more money for motorcycle racing in general on that side of the pond anyhow.
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More money on the world stage my friend. There is just more money for motorcycle racing in general on that side of the pond anyhow.
Thank for the spanish and the Italians
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More money on the world stage my friend. There is just more money for motorcycle racing in general on that side of the pond anyhow.
I have to disagree. Riders in the AMA (the really good ones) are paid way more in the AMA. Spies took a pay cut to go to WSBK. Why do you think Mladin's been here for more than a decade. He gets PAID. Hacking & the Haydens too. Neil Hodgson is a former WSBK title holder and he's been in the AMA the last 2 or 3 years. There HAS to be a team in WSBK that would have Neil Hodgson on their team if he was interested, no?

Now, there's definitely more fan-base revenues in WSBK, but as far as team salaries, they're not.
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I have to disagree. Riders in the AMA (the really good ones) are paid way more in the AMA. Spies took a pay cut to go to WSBK. Why do you think Mladin's been here for more than a decade. He gets PAID. Hacking & the Haydens too. Neil Hodgson is a former WSBK title holder and he's been in the AMA the last 2 or 3 years. There HAS to be a team in WSBK that would have Neil Hodgson on their team if he was interested, no?

Now, there's definitely more fan-base revenues in WSBK, but as far as team salaries, they're not.
I agree with you to a point where rider salaries are concerned but if WSBK, WSS, MotoGP, 250GP, 125GP & World Endurance relied on American and English money then it's my belief that we would not have them.
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I have to disagree. Riders in the AMA (the really good ones) are paid way more in the AMA. Spies took a pay cut to go to WSBK. Why do you think Mladin's been here for more than a decade. He gets PAID. Hacking & the Haydens too. Neil Hodgson is a former WSBK title holder and he's been in the AMA the last 2 or 3 years. There HAS to be a team in WSBK that would have Neil Hodgson on their team if he was interested, no?

Now, there's definitely more fan-base revenues in WSBK, but as far as team salaries, they're not.
I meant there is more $$$$ circulating in the sport, in general, on that side of the world.

Also, Spies took a pay cut because Yamaha took a gamble. One that certainly paid off though. Look for his salary to go up.
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I meant there is more $$$$ circulating in the sport, in general, on that side of the world.

Also, Spies took a pay cut because Yamaha took a gamble. One that certainly paid off though. Look for his salary to go up.
well, if they want to keep him in WSB for sure ... because I bet the MotoGP guys are taking a real good look at him right now.
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well, if they want to keep him in WSB for sure ... because I bet the MotoGP guys are taking a real good look at him right now.
If I remember right Spies was a wild card last year in Moto GP for a couple of races, and he did well while he was there. He decided not to go to GP becuase all the seats for the real contending teams in GP were full.

I think he his real debate was to stay in the AMA and get paid. Or, make the better career move to the world stage and and take the pay cut.

I think he the right choice. The GP Dogs are going to be howling at his door step soon.
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I bet he stays in WSBK at least one more season. Especially if he doesn't get the WSBK crown this year.

Unless, teams like FIAT or Repsol dump a rider. Not likely though.....at least not before next seasons end.
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Hmmm... Toseland isn't looking very good, and if I were Ben I don't think I would be riding anyting but the Yamaha in MotoGP...

The rest of the bikes are way behind.
Unless your name is Casey you can't ride the Duc
Unless you're a "little person" you can't ride the honda...
Suzuki, ....yaaawwwn
Kwak......???????

Besides, unless the economy recovers in a big way, MotoGP as a whole is on shakey ground from what I have read recently...

I think Ben should stay in WSBK until things stabilize...

Next year his goal can be to win ALL the races let's see someone top that...LOL
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I think Spies is only going to hop over to GP is if he has a true factory sponsor ride, and to be honest I think he would be worth it to hold out on a factory ride.
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Don't rule out Melandri just yet.

Ben will stick to WSBK long enough to get the brass ring. Then he and Houseworth will migrate to MotoGP. Probably a Tech 3 ride as Rossi will never "lose" his ride and successful Spain riders (Lorenzo) just bring too much sponsor money.
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I bet he stays in WSBK at least one more season. Especially if he doesn't get the WSBK crown this year.

Unless, teams like FIAT or Repsol dump a rider. Not likely though.....at least not before next seasons end.
My money is on Spies going to motoGP next year,
Toseland, not with standing a miracle has not done enough to keep his ride with Tech3 which we know is a very good bike!
There are also rumours on the internet that Lorenzo is being courted by Honda in a big bucks deal. yamaha have gone so far as saying that although they would like to keep him but he has not yet resigned!!
Quality seats were not available to Ben last year, this year (for 2010) will be different!
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Don't rule out Melandri just yet.

Ben will stick to WSBK long enough to get the brass ring. Then he and Houseworth will migrate to MotoGP. Probably a Tech 3 ride as Rossi will never "lose" his ride and successful Spain riders (Lorenzo) just bring too much sponsor money.
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