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Old 05-12-2009, 03:14 PM   #41
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man they are some retards. lets put them on a busa and let them loose on 3090
Why a Busa and not a r6?
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:22 PM   #42
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This is America, people should have the right to choose...even if that choice ends up being stupid.
RIGHT, until you end up a veg. and on the gov'ts bill.

do you protest this much about the seat belt law?

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also thanks to the helmet law and the way it is set up

the passenger must also has to have the same qual. and certs as the primary rider to go w/o a lid

21 and under MUST wear lid. no way out

and this law also gives LEOs the right to stop you and check if your lid is DOT complient.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:42 PM   #43
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This is America, people should have the right to choose...even if that choice ends up being stupid.
but those laws are there to protect people from themselves. so yes it should be enforce just like seat belt laws.


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Why a Busa and not a r6?
cuz they they'd actually be able to go fast in the turns!!!
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:23 PM   #44
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cuz they they'd actually be able to go fast in the turns!!!
Busa's can go fast in turns If you know how to ride
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but those laws are there to protect people from themselves. so yes it should be enforce just like seat belt laws.
Agreed. IMO, seatbelt is to car as helmet is to motorcycle.
Both should be required. Just my $.02
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man they are some retards. lets put them on a busa and let them loose on 3090
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cuz they they'd actually be able to go fast in the turns!!!
so based on this logic, you're saying any can jump on an r6 and be fast in the turns.
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busa's dont turn like a smaller lighter bike does. can they? yes, but it takes more skill. cali drags hard parts but most of the busa owners cant do that.
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Agreed. IMO, seatbelt is to car as helmet is to motorcycle.
Both should be required. Just my $.02
It is kinda funny to see how Americans try to defend their right to choose whatever up to the point of using defunct logic just to make a point and putting their life at risk just because they can.

I really begin to wonder why that is. Where I'm from it is natural that when you get on a bike, you put on a helmet. Period. People who buy bikes automatically factor in the cost of full gear and that means for sport bike riders leather suits.

I think people who wear a lid look much cooler because using your brain is cool.

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I think people who wear a lid look much cooler because using your brain is cool.

Just my $0.02
that and helmets these days have some cool as graphics riding jackets too.
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busa's dont turn like a smaller lighter bike does. can they? yes, but it takes more skill. cali drags hard parts but most of the busa owners cant do that.
oh here we go again....................
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he started it.
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but to some that 5 dollars is alot. i dont have one but thats because i wont ever go anywhere without my helmet. even down the street to warm up the chain.
Can't afford $5, you shouldn't be riding a motorcycle...

Nothing like having your family have to struggle to foot the bill for your medical after your $4 runs out.


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Busa's have a natural disadvantage if you took a great motorcycle driver and put him on both bikes im sure the r6 or any of the more nimble bikes would be preferred depending on the track. But then you have to ask wait I have even done a track day on my r6 to be arguing this.
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no but thats "natural disadvantage" is common knowledge. the reason i had even posted what i posted was because of the natural disadvantge in the turns, not because they are chitty bikes.
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This is America, people should have the right to choose...even if that choice ends up being stupid.
Also you lose the right to choose when the majority of choices being made are lacking in logic and causing burden to all the taxpayers, for example in what we are talking about your no helmet can cost alot for all the emergency response teams and etc. So if the cost become extravagant yes your right to make these decisions is removed or in the very least fined and restricted as the no helmet law is.
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Also you lose the right to choose when the majority of choices being made are lacking in logic and causing burden to all the taxpayers, for example in what we are talking about your no helmet can cost alot for all the emergency response teams and etc. So if the cost become extravagant yes your right to make these decisions is removed or in the very least fined and restricted as the no helmet law is.
Oh bullshit. The solutions to that are simpler. You dont restrict people who are making their own choices because of the behavior of stupid people. You simply dont pay for the dumbass.

Good all ****ing mighty - doesnt ANYONE believe in taking personal responsibility? Are you THAT ****ing pathetic that you cannot accept the risk of your own behavior?
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but those laws are there to protect people from themselves. so yes it should be enforce just like seat belt laws.
I don't WANT to be protected from myself. Unlike some people, I am fully capable of making my own decisions.
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RIGHT, until you end up a veg. and on the gov'ts bill.
Says who? Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just MAYBE, the solution is not to punish those who haven't created any cost, but instead to say "tough " to those who choose not to wear one?
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Agreed. It's not their right-to-choose that's so funny - it's their logic!
Perhaps - we all have our own ways of making a decision.

I find your logic of riding a track bike with turn signals to be questionable, but that is YOUR choice. I may disagree, but I have no right to prevent you from making that choice.
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