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Old 05-07-2009, 10:59 PM   #1
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Freddie Spencer: How to Ride a Naked (or Older Superbike) Fast.

I'm copying this from a member of another Forum, mostly 919 owners.

With that in mind, I thought it would be good to share for those of us who ride nakeds, steel framed, or old school sportbikes.

Can any of you guys differentiate, identify, or explain why certain aspects or techniques may need to be different than what Spencer explains here, on a modern sportbike vs. an older SuperBike or Naked?

I do feel like I have to "work" the 919 harder than I do a repli-racer sportbike, but it does a good job of keeping up through the twisties. So i think he makes a good point about "playing to the bike's strengths", where I need to slow down more, and make sure I'm completely turned in, before hammering the throttle. (At least that's how I'm understanding his instruction). It makes sense to me, but it seems maybe it can be applied to any and all sportbikes, classic and modern.

Spencer is referring to an '82 4 stroke Inline-4 racebike, but I think that bike is very similar to bikes like the 919, Bandit, ZRX, or any other Naked or older Superbike.

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This is a snippit from the May TWO issue. It's from Freddie Spencer. He's primarily talking about the `82 4 stroke 4 cylinder race bikes that were the Superbikes of the day.

*Play to the bikes strengths. Streetbikes tend to be heavier than sportbikes, with less ground clearenceand softer suspention. Slow down more for a given corner, get turned and, with the bike back up at a safe angle of lean, tap on the power hard.

*Try hanging off more to reduce the lean angle required to tackle a given corner at a given speed.

*If stability is an issue, don't try to do two things at once: brake or steer; turn or accelerate hard.

*Be super smooth. Aggressive use of the brakes or throttle will upsset the bikes composure, compromise i's stability and ultimately reduce the amount of grip available from the tires.
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I haven't had to many issues with mine. Most of what I notice is at speeds over 120 the wind is beating me up so much that it makes it much more work.

The other big difference is the seating position. Its harder for me to move my but off the seat but I use my upper body a lot to shift the weight in turns.
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Yeah, but that wind is a BLAST! (pun intended).
One of the main reasons I love Nakeds is you have no illusions on how fast you are going. There's nothing in front of you, and no fairings. I get the sensation that I'm literally flying through the air!
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Yup, he is dead on (big surprise there, NOT).. just basic physics. More weight means it is harder to get it to change directions, so you need more aggresive inputs and body language. The advantage is they are usually longer as well, so you can pound on the brakes pretty hard without worrying about doing an unintended stoppie.

The other thing you can do is upgrade the suspension to better suit your riding style. Most of the "standards" come with very basic suspensions not well suited to hard twisty riding.
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