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Old 05-06-2009, 08:42 PM   #1
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:48 PM   #2
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That offers waaaaay more than any lap timer. Sure its more money but its a learning tool and can help with your progress on the track. Its GPS based so you wont miss any laps.
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No worries. Next on the list would be the XT. They are easy to use and work well.
I tried using the Mychron but it was not user friendly in the least. Im not a rocket scientist, I just ride bike but I quickly learned to hate it.
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No worries. Next on the list would be the XT. They are easy to use and work well.
I tried using the Mychron but it was not user friendly in the least. Im not a rocket scientist, I just ride bike but I quickly learned to hate it.
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For starting out... get a $99-110 XT Mini - no wires, no hassel.

Once you progress enough and come to a stopping point then I'd recommend any of the following (in no particular order)

- Starlane Athon GPS-R (Motorcycle Mount Friendly, runs on "AA")
- Racepak G2x (great Customer Support, very user friendly)
- XT's new GPS sensored all in data logger
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XT Mini works fine for me. very basic. around $100.
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That offers waaaaay more than any lap timer. Sure its more money but its a learning tool and can help with your progress on the track. Its GPS based so you wont miss any laps.
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Gabe, the 699.00 price doesn't include the display. With the display it's 943.00.
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I can't see how you can anyone can go wrong with a MyChron TG, especially for your needs as stated above. It's basic, sturdy and gives you lap times, which is the whole point. But, if you want a lot of that other stuff that gives you pseudo telemetry, well, my condolences.
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Pffft. pseudo what?
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Gabe, the 699.00 price doesn't include the display. With the display it's 943.00.
We havent been running the display lately. It still records our data fine. We HAVE to have our fuel light so we chose to keep the stock display.
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I can't see how you can anyone can go wrong with a MyChron TG, especially for your needs as stated above. It's basic, sturdy and gives you lap times, which is the whole point. But, if you want a lot of that other stuff that gives you pseudo telemetry, well, my condolences.
The MyChron TG? Man you really are a troglodyte. No GPS. No accelerometers. Sampling rate is a pissy little 10hz. And it's still $549.00

RacePak G2X has GPS, dual accelerometers and 100 hz sampling rate.
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We havent been running the display lately. It still records our data fine. We HAVE to have our fuel light so we chose to keep the stock display.
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But the guys with no display can't set start/finish. Once it's set, they'd be golden. How do you guys set start/finish without the display on?
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The MyChron TG? Man you really are a troglodyte. No GPS. No accelerometers. Sampling rate is a pissy little 10hz. And it's still $549.00

RacePak G2X has GPS, dual accelerometers and 100 hz sampling rate.
A troglodyte would recommend paying full vendor retail for an item in a world influenced by eBay. Find 'em there in the $250 range. Buy used and find 'em all day long for under $200 since they are still one of the most popular timers on the track for bike and kart racers.

I'm old school in that I believe a whiz-bang lap timer is fun to play after doing data dumps, but, for the average trackie or club racer, it ain't gonna make you faster than the basic model. Save that coin and do more track days.

As an example, Gabe uses one that has a fuel indicator and does mileage calcs and whatnot, but he has a higher purpose than Chris for the foreseeable future. Man, that stuff is really needed on a track bike that does 20 minute sessions. Not.
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A troglodyte would recommend paying full vendor retail for an item in a world influenced by eBay. Find 'em there in the $250 range. Buy used and find 'em all day long for under $200 since they are still one of the most popular timers on the track for bike and kart racers.

I'm old school in that I believe a whiz-bang lap timer is fun to play after doing data dumps, but, for the average trackie or club racer, it ain't gonna make you faster than the basic model. Save that coin and do more track days.

As an example, Gabe uses one that has a fuel indicator and does mileage calcs and whatnot, but he has a higher purpose than Chris for the foreseeable future. Man, that stuff is really needed on a track bike that does 20 minute sessions. Not.
Depends on what they are trying to do. I'd bet I could take an average track level rider running in the advanced run group and help them pick up 2 or more seconds over the course of a day using a G2X. As for racers, frankly I'm surprised that most of them don't use good data acquisition. The benefits are huge. Racers are there to win.

The GPS advantage is not needing a beacon. The beacon situation during some of the track days has been ridiculous. People getting no readings session after session, or false readings.

All that said, 1K pays for a lot of track days!!

and... a troglodyte wouldn't know how to get to ebay. ba ha ha ha.
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Yeah, just looking for basic stuff for now. Nothing too fancy.. YET, hopefully.


Although, do I need just the lap timer itself, that mounts on the bike, to go with whatever transponder at the track? Or do I need to shop for a setup that includes my own transponder?
Unless you're a member of a track you won't need a beacon. I have a beacon and have used it maybe 10 times (when the Angleton track was new mostly).

They'll always be someone at a track day that has a beacon, so save that money.

Ebay, CMRARacing.com, WERA, etc all have folks selling used lap timers, about $100 to $200 depending on what you want to get. I like the XT for ease of use, nice display and works consistently.
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The MyChron LIGHTTG? Man you really are a troglodyte. No GPS. No accelerometers. Sampling rate is a pissy little 10hz. And it's still $549.00

RacePak G2X has GPS, dual accelerometers and 100 hz sampling rate.
It's $250 but I scored 2 for $150 each brand new in box on eBay last year, one for me and one for my bud Level5
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