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Old 05-06-2009, 08:44 AM   #21
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This is the only cleaner I use. It is the best I have found to get chain lube off. It just makes it disappear.

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This is the only cleaner I use. It is the best I have found to get chain lube off. It just makes it disappear.

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b4 u lube the chain run the bike (5-10min) to heat up the chain. this will help keep the lube on the chain itself. let sit for abt 10 min to seize to the chain and you should be fine.i never had any prob after doing this.doesnt fly off. i do this every 300mi&/ most say every 500mi
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You're probably just applying too much lube.
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You're probably just applying too much lube.


After applying lube run a rag on the underside to wipe off any excess lube. Heating the chain before application helps alot, too. Of course let it sit for at least 10/15 min before riding after application.

I use engine degreaser to get the wheelz clean. Let it sit for no more than 30 secs and hit it with the hose. No problems and very little wiping.
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Use wd40 to clen the chain and remove all the from it. After you let it sit for a bit apply chain wax or lube. WD40 alone will destroy the seals if you don't apply wax or lube after.
This is absolutely NOT true.

I use nothing but WD-40 to clean AND lube my chain. Now, before ya'll go off about it not being a lube, think about this...

The chain has o-rings because there is grease inside each link, the o-rings keep it there. What that means is, the chain is already lubed. What you spray on the outside has little effect on what goes on inside.
It IS possible to chemically damage the seals but WD-40 won't do it. Both WD-40 and the grease in the chain are petroleum based and therefor compatible.

You then ask, what is chain lube for then? Why do they say I should use it?

Chain lube was developed for pre-oring (roller) type chains. They had to be lubed often to prevent wear and failure. They were basically dry until you sprayed something on them.

The chain mfr's say you should use it, because it would be a liability problem if they said don't bother and then the chain failed.
The lube mfr's say you should use it, because they want to sell lube.

So, what should you do?

Keep the chain clean, I use WD-40.
Keep the chain protected from rust, I use WD-40.
Keep it adjusted.

There you're done!

Clean, adjusted and protected from rust. That's all there is to it.



BTW I been riding since 1980, have owned quite a few bikes and for a couple years, was a service manager at a Yamaha shop, just for those that suspect I know nothing. I have always maintained chains this way since the o-ring type came out.
No problems.
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Likely most any chain lube is going to fly off a bit, I use Lamp Oil (likely a kin to koerosene) and plenty of paper towels to clean the rim and tire sides, sometimes found at WallMarts or Target but getting harder to find lately.
Comes in handy too if you have an oil lamp and lose your electric.
Can be used to clean the chain too.
For Lube I use the Belray.
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Eva Zabowski with WD-40 Customer Service writes:

"Thank you for contacting the WD-40 Company with regards to using WD-40 on o-rings. WD-40 is a multi-purpose light lubricating oil, which will displace water and moisture from the chain. The "WD" stands for water displacement and acts as a rust preventative on any metal surface. WD-40 will not dry out the rubber o-rings. We have found no visible effects on the surface of rubber and o-rings. Certain types of rubber will swell under prolonged immersion in WD-40 (this refers to long soaking and not just a spray).

WD-40 is also a cleaner, which will remove grime, dirt, tape, bumper stickers and oil. It is possible that if there is a special lubricant in the o-rings, WD-40 could act as a cleaner and remove that oil. The special lubricant would be replaced with WD-40. We are sure there are superior heavy-duty chain lubes on the market. There are several people who recommend using WD-40 on their chains. Perhaps some experimenting with WD-40, as a water remover and rust preventative followed by a heavier chain lube would fit your needs. The bottom line is WD-40 will not harm your o-rings, but it could remove a lubricant that was previously applied to the chain.

Thank you again for contacting the WD-40 Company. Please let us know if we may be of further assistance."

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Eva Zabowski with WD-40 Customer Service writes:

"Thank you for contacting the WD-40 Company with regards to using WD-40 on o-rings. WD-40 is a multi-purpose light lubricating oil, which will displace water and moisture from the chain. The "WD" stands for water displacement and acts as a rust preventative on any metal surface. WD-40 will not dry out the rubber o-rings. We have found no visible effects on the surface of rubber and o-rings. Certain types of rubber will swell under prolonged immersion in WD-40 (this refers to long soaking and not just a spray).

WD-40 is also a cleaner, which will remove grime, dirt, tape, bumper stickers and oil. It is possible that if there is a special lubricant in the o-rings, WD-40 could act as a cleaner and remove that oil. The special lubricant would be replaced with WD-40. We are sure there are superior heavy-duty chain lubes on the market. There are several people who recommend using WD-40 on their chains. Perhaps some experimenting with WD-40, as a water remover and rust preventative followed by a heavier chain lube would fit your needs. The bottom line is WD-40 will not harm your o-rings, but it could remove a lubricant that was previously applied to the chain.

Thank you again for contacting the WD-40 Company. Please let us know if we may be of further assistance."

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Exactly.
It doesn't harm, it cleans, it prevents rust and based on my years of experience (along with many others if you care to research) does NOT remove lubricant.
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chain wax is the best i have found. give it time to dry before riding
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I've had good results with, and heard others sing the praises of, automatic transmission fluid. There are reports of chains running 15-20,000 miles on ATF (on, ahem, less powerful 650's). ATF is a light machine oil that will penetrate where it needs to go but won't get sticky and hold lots of dirt & debris. Cleans and lubricates. It's also cheap: a dollar-store bottle might last you a year or two.

Re: Simple Green, it's amazing stuff. But I think it started to damage the finish on one of my wheels, so I've discontinued use for motorcycle applications.
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I too only use wd40 to clean and lube my chain. Never had any problems with doing this and been doing this for quite a few years now. I wd40 my chain lightly every other time a ride.
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