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Old 05-04-2009, 09:12 AM   #1
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Follow on - Clip-ons

My stock clip-ons are at a nasty angle for me for some reason (I think). I just can't get my wrist at the right angle leaning off the bike. I rotated the bars up to the max so they don't hit the fairings (or my fingers) at max turn. But that didn't give me but maybe an inch! If you look at this picture, my hand is on the bar end... what the else can I do? Is this a riding position thing?

I played with this all weekend and the only thing I could think of is maybe offset clip-ons? Or clip-ons with a different angle on them? Anyone else have this problem / issue?
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What exactly constitutes the "right" angle for your wrist? I mean, if you're doing it right there's no weight there so it would almost seem to not matter.

That being said, aftermarket clipons tend to be both longer than stock and angled a little further down.
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maybe start by moving your body to the rear of the seat, being back farther will allow you more leverage and to further allow your arms to be straight rather than where they are now.
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What exactly constitutes the "right" angle for your wrist? I mean, if you're doing it right there's no weight there so it would almost seem to not matter.

That being said, aftermarket clipons tend to be both longer than stock and angled a little further down.
True.

The way you set the "proper" angle is to close your eyes and lean forward to grab "imaginary" clipons. Look at the angle of your hands and set the angle of your clipons to that.
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Hummmm.... I am off to purchase some cheap Vortek clip-ons and see if the angle is different enough to matter. I have seen some other stuff out there like these http://www.helibars.com/proddetail.php?prod=TS675 ... expensive though!
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Hummmm.... I am off to purchase some cheap Vortek clip-ons and see if the angle is different enough to matter. I have seen some other stuff out there like these http://www.helibars.com/proddetail.php?prod=TS675 ... expensive though!
Get with Patrick, he may even have them in stock. Vortex/ Woodcraft, can't go wrong.
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Step 1. Buy Vortex clip ons

Step 2. Adjust them to your own personal liking
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Hummmm.... I am off to purchase some cheap Vortek clip-ons and see if the angle is different enough to matter. I have seen some other stuff out there like these http://www.helibars.com/proddetail.php?prod=TS675 ... expensive though!
helibars are for people attempting to turn the sportbikes into sport touring bikes. Thats not going to help. Its going to make it worse because your wrists will be just as cramped, AND angled up!
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I don't recall off the top of my head but Patrick got them for me.
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What exactly constitutes the "right" angle for your wrist?
To me it means the angle at which I can have the most comfort and best control over the motorcycle!

I agree that your wrists should not be carrying very much weight (in the turn) but to say they are weightless is not accurate. People develop wrist issues from typing on the computer and the only weight supported there is the weight of your arms. Point is that no matter what angle the wrist is at you still have to hold onto the motorcycle!

Try holding your wrist in the angle I have mine at in this picture... how does it feel? To me it doesn't feel good so it isn't about load on the wrist it is about finding a setup that works for me and the angle matters a lot.
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helibars are for people attempting to turn the sportbikes into sport touring bikes. Thats not going to help. Its going to make it worse because your wrists will be just as cramped, AND angled up!
I thought the same thing but there are some guys on the triumph675.net that are racing with them... they swear by them...
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Also get some spare bars (tubes)....you know, just in case
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What are you trying to say? You think I am gonna crash or what?
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To me it means the angle at which I can have the most comfort and best control over the motorcycle!
In that position are you really "controlling" the motorcycle with your hands? You probably shouldn't be.

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I agree that your wrists should not be carrying very much weight (in the turn) but to say they are weightless is not accurate. People develop wrist issues from typing on the computer and the only weight supported there is the weight of your arms.
They develop issues from the repetitive movements of the wrists and fingers. Not a good example.

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Point is that no matter what angle the wrist is at you still have to hold onto the motorcycle!
You shouldn't be holding on to the bars. Larry Myers told me that he actually makes "Cs" out of his hands explicitly to make sure he's NOT holding on. You want the front end to be able to wiggle while you're leaned over as the side to side motion (as referenced from the centerline of the bike) is the only suspension you have. You start impeding that by hanging weight on the bars, and you'll run wide from lack of traction.

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Try holding your wrist in the angle I have mine at in this picture... how does it feel? To me it doesn't feel good so it isn't about load on the wrist it is about finding a setup that works for me and the angle matters a lot.
While I agree that finding what works for you is foremost, I think maybe you're doing some wrong things that are putting you there.
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