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Old 05-01-2009, 02:41 PM   #41
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Actually, I believe that it would work. I believe in education.

People will always hurt/maim and kill themselves. (That why the Darwin Awards were invented)

However, through the use of our broad media and communication systems, just the fact of reminding someone that slower traffic should stay to the right, or that talking on the phone is dangerous will cause a few to obey that sugestion which will prevent SOME "ACCIDENTS", not all but some.

One humans life is worth the cost of the signs. I would rather see our government spend money on programs like this than bailouts and $900 hammers.
So all the "signs" saying how bad smoking is, and the large number of people that STILL SMOKE isn't proof enough that education doesn't work to reduce hazards?
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Have you ever talked ona cell phone while driving?
yup until a little over three years ago when I was run off the road with a group of friends out riding and had a friend of mine die because of the soccer mom on their cell phone.

I'm not saying these people should go to prison for the rest of their life or get the death penalty or anything like that, but, something needs to happen if someone is killed.

Like i said in a previous post they definitely have to face the family and friends of whoever they run over on accident. I think that would be punishment enough.
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I would have to say that some people could handle being on the phone while driving, but thre are alot of teens that should be concentrating on thier driving and not have these distractions. I see people all the time doing stupid things while driving and I simply try to avoid riding close to them. If I see someone that is obviously not paying attention to thier driving I steer clear.
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yup until a little over three years ago when I was run off the road with a group of friends out riding and had a friend of mine die because of the soccer mom on their cell phone.

I'm not saying these people should go to prison for the rest of their life or get the death penalty or anything like that, but, something needs to happen if someone is killed.

Like i said in a previous post they definitely have to face the family and friends of whoever they run over on accident. I think that would be punishment enough.
The punishment should certainly be far stiffer than just a fine - especially since it is utterly preventable.

There is zero excuse for babbling on a phone to the point where you are distracted. None.

Do i talk on the phone while I'm driving? Sure - with a headset - and if the conversation is more involved than "Honey, pick up milk on your way home", i tell the person I'll call them back. It isnt that hard to do - you just park the f'n car and talk.

Should it be illegal to talk and drive? No - thats no different than having a conversation with your passenger. However, distracted driving is no different than drunk driving - your focus is somewhere other than the primary task at hand, which is driving a car.
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the video doesn't prove anything.

bus drivers wreck while not texting or talking on the phone.

but as far as a person driving for commercial purposes (school bus, taxi, ect) I think they should, by their employer (not the gubberment), be barred from using their phones with the vehicle in motion.
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Should it be illegal to talk and drive? No - thats no different than having a conversation with your passenger. However, distracted driving is no different than drunk driving - your focus is somewhere other than the primary task at hand, which is driving a car.
Actually, tests have proven that talking on a cellphone while driving is significantly different than talking to a passenger. The general findnigs where that we're capable of talking to someone in the car while continuing to look at the road, but while on a cellphone we tend to look down so as to remove the "distraction" of watching the road in order to better pay attention to the conversation.


They've also done studies that show that cellphone talkers are about as bad as drunk drivers with regards to reactino time.
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But you are being neglagent. And should be charged. I dont talk on a cellphone while driving. Its not hard not to do, If you get a call pull over. If your in a hurry, then they can wait till you get to were your going. and texting takes even more focus from you.



I hope to they pass a law that says you can not talk or text on the phone, unless you are on a handless set
Charged with MURDER? no.

Charged with something, yes. Jail time? Yes.
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the video doesn't prove anything.

bus drivers wreck while not texting or talking on the phone.

but as far as a person driving for commercial purposes (school bus, taxi, ect) I think they should, by their employer (not the gubberment), be barred from using their phones with the vehicle in motion.
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Cell phone driving statistics
Distraction from cell phone use while driving (hand held or hands free) extends a driver's reaction as much as having a blood alcohol concentration at the legal limit of .08%. (University of Utah)
The No.1 source of driver inattention is use of a wireless device. (Virginia Tech /NHTSA)
Drivers that use cell phones are four times as likely to get into crashes serious enough to injure themselves. (NHTSA, Insurance Institute for Highway Safety)
10% of drivers aged 16 to 24 years old are on their phone at any one time.
Driving while distracted is a factor in 25% of police reported crashes.
Driving while using a cell phone reduces the amount of brain activity associated with driving by 37%. (Carnegie Mellon)

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I dont think they should die, or go to prison forever, but a good few years behind bars, and 10 years rejection of a driving licence sounds fair.



And you should be able to talk on a handsfree set. but thats about it.
I agree, to an extent...

10 years is a bithmuch and so is the 10 yr revocation....

maybe 5 and 2
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Distraction from cell phone use while driving (hand held or hands free) extends a driver's reaction as much as having a blood alcohol concentration at the legal limit of .08%. (University of Utah)
The No.1 source of driver inattention is use of a wireless device. (Virginia Tech /NHTSA)
Drivers that use cell phones are four times as likely to get into crashes serious enough to injure themselves. (NHTSA, Insurance Institute for Highway Safety)
10% of drivers aged 16 to 24 years old are on their phone at any one time.
Driving while distracted is a factor in 25% of police reported crashes.
Driving while using a cell phone reduces the amount of brain activity associated with driving by 37%. (Carnegie Mellon)

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I have no disagreements that for many people using a cell phone will driving IS distracting. I think it is nowhere near as dangerous as driving drunk. Yes I have seen the study from Utah U and I don't buy it, neither does many other people.
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I guess I am in the minority because I feel cell phone usage in a moving vehicle should be banned. It is a different animal from eating or drinking or talking to someone in the car with you.

There have been more than one study done that shows people engrossed in a cell phone conversation are more dangerous than the average drunk driver.

I make a game out of it.. everytime I see someone in a cage doing something stupid, I bet they are on the phone. 99.5% of the time I am right.
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So all the "signs" saying how bad smoking is, and the large number of people that STILL SMOKE isn't proof enough that education doesn't work to reduce hazards?
So you are saying that the no smoking campaign doesn't work because everyone hasn't quit smoking......

Hmmmm, I guess high school is useless too, since every kid does not graduate...

The logic...

In reality education does help, maybe not everyone but it does help...
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Wasn't too long ago a pair of our members were rear ended, stopped at a red light for more than a few seconds, with strobes and a car sitting next to them. The driver was texting and never hit his brakes.

How the did this world function 10-20 years ago without cell phones??
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why stop at cellphones, the only difference is you can prove that one, how about :

eating while driving
putting on makeup
looking on the next seat for something
reaching for something your kidd dropped on the car seat
lighting a cigarrette
talking to your passanger

they are all distractions that can cause and accident some of them are as distracting if not more than a cellphone, but only one can be proved.
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I hope I never catch you doing anything in your car except driving and being VERY cautious.
no i actually dont talk on the phone, or eat or do anything else while driving. i know that with the traffic the way it is things happen in a split second. my fiancee does the same. was a thread about a guy and how he got decapitated because of someone on the phone. if im riding and i see you on your phone driving recklessly or not paying attn trust you me i will take your mirror off. to many times have there been close calls because some one is chatting it up and driving to slow, swerving, or looking around for a pen and paper to write down info or and phone number.
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why stop at cellphones, the only difference is you can prove that one, how about :

eating while driving
putting on makeup
looking on the next seat for something
reaching for something your kidd dropped on the car seat
lighting a cigarrette
talking to your passanger

they are all distractions that can cause and accident some of them are as distracting if not more than a cellphone, but only one can be proved.
Actually, big differences. All the ones you listed take your focus from the roads for a sec or two; most cell phone conversations go on for minutes.

Since you are driving a deadly weapon, anything you do with it that causes anothers death should be treated the same. Manslaughter, murder, you choose. This society is in the dumper because everyone has gotten too soft, too lax, too much into the "me" attitude.
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