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Old 05-01-2009, 01:40 PM   #1
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Cell Phones = Vehicluar Murder? or Not?

We've had this discussion before, but let's revist.

Assuming that it can be definitely proven that a car driver was on the phone, especially texting or surfing, when that driver causes a fatality accident (especially to a cyclist), that driver should be tried for murder. (Yes, I know it's hard to prove, but let's assume.)

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Old 05-01-2009, 01:40 PM   #2
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:42 PM   #3
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Too late to add a poll now.

Vehicular murder? Yes. No. Maybe

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no.

I talk on the phone alot, I text alot. I eat while driving, People put on make up while driving. People do alot while driving.

If I kill some guy on a bike, Im going to feel like for the rest of my life. But, it was an accident. I did not plan on killing someone. Should the family have the right to sue me? Yes.

If I get charged for murder while texting, then any accident that causes a death while driving should be charged with murder as well. They are all accidents, or the person operating the vehicle not paying attention at the wrong time.
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:47 PM   #6
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no.

I talk on the phone alot, I text alot. I eat while driving, People put on make up while driving. People do alot while driving.

If I kill some guy on a bike, Im going to feel like for the rest of my life. But, it was an accident. I did not plan on killing someone. Should the family have the right to sue me? Yes.

If I get charged for murder while texting, then any accident that causes a death while driving should be charged with murder as well. They are all accidents, or the person operating the vehicle not paying attention at the wrong time.
I agree.
Manslaughter seems like it would be enough.
If I thought it would prevent others from doing it, I'd say change it to murder, but I doubt it would change anything.
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What about woman doing makeup? or spanking their kids in the back seat? or people eating? would those all be treated the same?
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I think there should be some penalty I'm not sure about being charged with murder though. The way I see it my life is more important than your phone conversation, text, cheeseburger, your makeup or coffee. Your irresponsibility kills someone, and you should have to pay the price. You should have to face the family and friends of the person you killed.
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I believe criminal negligence would be what you could have someone charged with now.
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And if anything not a vehicular homicide, possibly negligent but vehicular homicide implies they were purposefully using the vehicle as a weapon to commit murder.
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also, the rider chose to ride a bike, if you were hit in a car, chances of survival are alot higher. is the cagers fault "you" took a bigger risk?
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To the people voting YES

I hope I never catch you doing anything in your car except driving and being VERY cautious.
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I hope I never catch you doing anything in your car except driving and being VERY cautious.
If Chris catches you doing anything but driving, he's going to KILL you.
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:03 PM   #15
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also, the rider chose to ride a bike, if you were hit in a car, chances of survival are alot higher. is the cagers fault "you" took a bigger risk?

So we should structure everything to conform to the highest tier of safety offered by a vehicle? Everyone else is just stupid?
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its all under "distracted driving" - people just have to pay attention. I think if they can prove you were doing anything other than driving you get an extra penalty - using cell phone is one of the few things you could actually prove.

We need to take away the luxuries about driving. No more power steering, automatic transmission, auto GPS, radio, CD player, visor mirrors, cup holders, etc. If you can't handle a car like that you shouldn't be on the road

BTW - In car internet (including internet radio) is coming soon. Its already pretty easy to do but they are talking about integrating it. Sweet more ways to be distracted.
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no.

I talk on the phone alot, I text alot. I eat while driving, People put on make up while driving. People do alot while driving.

If I kill some guy on a bike, Im going to feel like for the rest of my life. But, it was an accident. I did not plan on killing someone. Should the family have the right to sue me? Yes.

If I get charged for murder while texting, then any accident that causes a death while driving should be charged with murder as well. They are all accidents, or the person operating the vehicle not paying attention at the wrong time.
I agree!
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no.

I talk on the phone alot, I text alot. I eat while driving, People put on make up while driving. People do alot while driving.

If I kill some guy on a bike, Im going to feel like for the rest of my life. But, it was an accident. I did not plan on killing someone. Should the family have the right to sue me? Yes.

If I get charged for murder while texting, then any accident that causes a death while driving should be charged with murder as well. They are all accidents, or the person operating the vehicle not paying attention at the wrong time.
I agree with you that there is no intention but you (generic not personal) should be driving.
I don;t see the difference between a drunk driver adn someone texting, in both cases there was no intention, why should they be threated differently?
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The way I see it, is that the car and even a bike can be considered a weapon.

What we a s a society tend to forget is that we are weilding 3000 pound plus metal behemouths across our roads. When we forget these facts is when an accident is about to happen.

Our cages are so luxurious now. , heated leather seats, AC, TV, self stopping, auto parrallel parking and 500 channels on our Radio. Our cages isolate us from the world around us and offer us so many distractions it is hard to list them all.

I am as guilty as the next person about talking on my cell phone while driving, or eating or a wide variety of other infractions. (Especially Speeding)

Should we lock up someone because they were to busy yapping and took someone else out of the gene pool. I have to say no.

What we really need is a continuing education system for driving, along with a public awareness program and safe driving information.

In your face or else type of program.
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