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Old 05-01-2009, 09:54 AM   #1
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In 1984, after tearing up club racing (including the CMRA, which was known as the CRRC then) on a Yamaha RZ350 and a Yamaha FJ600, Kevin Schwantz got a tryout ride with the Yoshimura Suzuki team. The test ride was arranged by John Ulrich (of Roadracing World), and took place at Willow Springs in early 1985. Obviously Kevin got the job. This Suzuki GS750ES was the bike raced in 1985. Fully restored, the bike is owned by guy with lots of money on the eastern seaboard.

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Old 05-01-2009, 09:55 AM   #2
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Now thats old school!

Imagine how hard that bike is to ride
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In it's day it wasn't that hard to ride.
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Great pics.
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Pops built some bad dudes back then. That thing might have made 110-120rwhp if it was 750cc. You sure that it's not 700cc?. I dont remember if there were cc rule changes during the tariff years.
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Pops built some bad dudes back then. That thing might have made 110-120rwhp if it was 750cc. You sure that it's not 700cc?. I dont remember if there were cc rule changes during the tariff years.
The Yosh bikes were 750s.

For a few years in the middle 1980s, 750s were knocked down to 700s (thanks to HD tariffs). I had an '85 GS700ES for a while in '87. I wish I still owned it. Classic lines and a fun bike to ride.
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Pops built some bad dudes back then. That thing might have made 110-120rwhp if it was 750cc. You sure that it's not 700cc?. I dont remember if there were cc rule changes during the tariff years.
I don't think that happened until '87.

The VFR was a victim of that in that year...

My VFR was a "claimed" 105hp, I think they gauged that at the crank then though, as was the case with the other bikes. There' weren't a whole lot of 100 rwhp bikes around then that were able to hold together.
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The Yosh bikes were 750s.

For a few years in the middle 1980s, 750s were knocked down to 700s (thanks to HD tariffs). I had an '85 GS700ES for a while in '87. I wish I still owned it. Classic lines and a fun bike to ride.
What I liked about these was it kinda felt the same as the 1100 but without the heavy crankshaft gyros to wobble you around.
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It started a couple years prior to 1987, Tom.

A 750 in 1986, the (second gen) VFR was a 700 starting in 1987. Then it was gone (as the premier Honda sportbike). Although you couldn't buy one in 1988, it won the AMA Superbike c'ship in that year as it did the two prior years.

This was my bike, the blue one:

1985 GS700E ES sales1c 800
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I don't think that happened until '87.

The VFR was a victim of that in that year...

My VFR was a "claimed" 105hp, I think they gauged that at the crank then though, as was the case with the other bikes. There' weren't a whole lot of 100 rwhp bikes around then that were able to hold together.
The air-cooled Suzukis and Kawasakis were a bullet proof engine for the most part. Liquid cooling and torque put the Honda up front though.
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The air-cooled Suzukis and Kawasakis were a bullet proof engine for the most part. Liquid cooling and torque put the Honda up front though.
True enough, but they didn't make 100 hp at the wheel like modern 600's do today.
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Tom, I really think the Yosh engines did. I will try to find proof if it is out there. The reason I say that is I had a magazine that stated that the horsepower difference between the Yosh built big bikes and 750 was around 30 hp. Thats been many years ago and if I am wrong I apologize up front.
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Tom, I really think the Yosh engines did. I will try to find proof if it is out there. The reason I say that is I had a magazine that stated that the horsepower difference between the Yosh built big bikes and 750 was around 30 hp. Thats been many years ago and if I am wrong I apologize up front.
No need for all that, I've never owned one and I know Pops Yosh is a fantastic builder.

I do remember though that in those days hp numbers were greatly exaggerated and I may be mistaken here, but I think they were not usually off drum dynos either. A lot of the numbers they gave were speculation iirc based on engineering and "it should make" type of data.

Either way, those bikes in that day were amazing to us mere mortals who could only afford the stockers.
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No need for all that, I've never owned one and I know Pops Yosh is a fantastic builder.

I do remember though that in those days hp numbers were greatly exaggerated and I may be mistaken here, but I think they were not usually off drum dynos either. A lot of the numbers they gave were speculation iirc based on engineering and "it should make" type of data.

Either way, those bikes in that day were amazing to us mere mortals who could only afford the stockers.
I agree with what you are saying here too. BTW, on the kevinschwantz.com site he talks of the easy-to-ride GS.
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when I win the lottery I want Norick Abe's Suzuka winning Yamaha 500,
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when I win the lottery I want Norick Abe's Suzuka winning Yamaha 500,
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I'll let you come by the mansion and sit on it once in a while after I win the lotto.
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I'll let you come by the mansion and sit on it once in a while after I win the lotto.
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I have ninja's you know and i'm not afraid to use them
you got the hots for it too then??
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