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Old 02-22-2006, 10:59 PM   #1
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Since this came up, and I was curious I thought I'd throw this out and see what happens.
I see these retreads/recaps being advertised and I wondered what the local tire people had to say about them? Tomahawk seems like they always have cheap prices, anyone use them or, dare I say have an opinion on them?
I'm thinking they may be fine for use as track tires but I don't think I'd use them for everyday........
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i wouldn;t use them PERIOD. those 18 wheeler treads you see on the side of the road are retreads.
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Since this came up, and I was curious I thought I'd throw this out and see what happens.
I see these retreads/recaps being advertised and I wondered what the local tire people had to say about them? Tomahawk seems like they always have cheap prices, anyone use them or, dare I say have an opinion on them?
I'm thinking they may be fine for use as track tires but I don't think I'd use them for everyday........
no way, i wouldnt trust em on a sunday easy ride, much less stressful track conditions and scuff/heat up

but what do i know, I ride a HD

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I'm thinking they may be fine for use as track tires but I don't think I'd use them for everyday........
I'd be hesitant to use them either way... but I'd be much more comfortable with them on the street. Much less abuse and fewer heat cycles.
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Well I used them on 18 wheelers and had VERY good luck with them. But, I bought them from one supplier and they were done by a reputable shop. There were/are lots of people doing caps that will cap just about anything.
I could get about 155,000 miles out of a set of rears...........
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I wouldn't run retreads on my Dodge truck, let alone a single track vehicle like a bike.
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On big OTR trucks we'd run retreads only on the rear axles only, and they'd blow regularly, quality would vary from mfr. to mfr.

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Well I used them on 18 wheelers and had VERY good luck with them. But, I bought them from one supplier and they were done by a reputable shop. There were/are lots of people doing caps that will cap just about anything.
I could get about 155,000 miles out of a set of rears...........
155k on retreads! you got your moneys worth deluxe!
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I'd be hesitant to use them either way... but I'd be much more comfortable with them on the street. Much less abuse and fewer heat cycles.
See I would think the other way would be a truer statement.........track use would be LESS likely to have a failure?
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One more thing to take into consideration; bike tires are subjected to different load stress angles than say an OTR truck.

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no way, the temps are way higher on the track
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I wouldn't run retreads on my Dodge truck, let alone a single track vehicle like a bike.
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On big OTR trucks we'd run retreads only on the rear axles only, and they'd blow regularly, quality would vary from mfr. to mfr.

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Yeah, that's the only place I ran them were rears but I had good luck with them. In more than 5 years OTR I never had one one fail, but I only bought them from one local tire guy.
My thinking was just using them for track days, you could get quite a bit of track time out of them. For the money........
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One more thing to take into consideration; bike tires are subjected to different load stress angles than say an OTR truck.

BTW, you up for a ride Sunday?

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Sunday sounds perfect, I'll be there.
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Any tire used in a track setting is going to be susceptible to heat cycling.
IMO your first 1 0r 2 track days, particularly in C group, street tires in good condition are ,ore than sufficient.


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Well I'm not looking to buy any, and I don't plan on any track days but I thought I'd ask the question. Don't know until you ask, right?
We were buying retreads from a place in Calif. 20 yrs ago where you could pick what kind of compound (soft, med, etc) depending on what kinda of times your car would run. It beat buying slicks and then running in a quicker bracket and you could put them on and drive to the track without fear. Price was great and you could get 10-30 runs out of a set depending on the car.
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Were those drag tires or for autocross? I'd heard about some for drag racing back then but had never tried them.

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This was drag racing, they worked real good up to about 400HP. Beyond that you needed a wider tire. You could only get these out to 10in wide.
Used them on my street car a lot.............
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I think what is being done by Tomahawk is a tad different than say an OTR tire from Bandag. We looked at Tomahawk's aircraft tires as an option for operations in the Middle East. From what I understand the motorcycle tires are following the same process they use to manufacture aircraft tires under FAA guidelines. Price wise I don't see much variation but if you are looking different colors other than black I guess Tomahawk is the way to go.
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