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Old 04-28-2009, 07:44 PM   #1
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Sport touring tire question

Time for new tires and not sure which way to go. Have a 06 zx14 that I ride quite a bit. Right now I have Pilot Road 2 front and back and really like them. I was going to get new Pilot Road 2 rear/Pilot power front-untill Patrick informed me of how much people including himself are likeing the Bridgestone BT016. The BT021 rear/BT016 front would be equivelent to previously mentioned. I am not questioning his expertise by any means, just seeing what others that have used these tires have to say about them. I know it is a mixed bag of tires, but it is what it is. Don't need opinions that were formed by reading articles or a google search, I can handle that. Let me know what you think of these choices IF you have personal experience with any or all of them. Thanks
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:51 PM   #2
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the BT016 I had on the busa was ok. It didn't turn in as well as the corsa did but appeared to have the ability to last a little longer.

I snatched some 21's for the 600 and am up to 300mls on them. They haven't slipped on me yet, but I honestly haven't punished them. They do seem to grip better in the rain. May be the tread pattern.
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Between those two it will come down to brand prefference and price. They are all great tires for what you are going to do with them.
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i had the same talk with him on my rear tire its 120/70-17 i liked it and when i got my front tire today i got the same the battlax bt016 i like them both very responsive i dont have many mies on them though.....
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JoeBusa loves him some 016's. He is on his second 016 rear. Im not sure about the front. The first day on them he had about .5" chicken strips on a lowered Busa. He feels very confident in them. And he is getting aprox. 4k with lots of track burn outs.
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Between those two it will come down to brand prefference and price. They are all great tires for what you are going to do with them.
Great advice and pretty much what I thought, but it still doesn't help me decide. Guess things are going well if deciding which tires to buy is my biggest problem at this current time
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Check out the Michelin web site, Here is what they say

"The Pilot® Sport HPX tire is specifically designed for heavy, large-displacement hypersport bikes like the Suzuki Hayabusa, Kawasaki ZX-14 and
BMW K1200S."

I tried these on a 1200S Bandit thought they were pretty good.
They are a little more on the sport side than what you currenty are running

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The BT016s seem good to me.
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I have a set of 16's coming in based on what I read online. I was torn between those and the PP2CT's. Everyone seemed to like them (16's).
Those should be a night and day difference to the BT56's I am running now.
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I too was torn between the PP2CTs and the Bt016s when I opted for the BT-016.

Reason = 1 Price 2 sticking with the brand the manufacture picked.

Very pleased with the BT-016 have 1500 miles on them there are showing signs of wear, I typically get 5 K out of rear tires. I think they will hit this mark, but no more.

To elaborate on my ealier response
The Michlen HPX I thought were good on a 1200S Bandit, but within 1500 miles I did pick up a nail in both the front and back - perhaps just bad luck, I plugged them and moved on.

Hey the stock Bt015 picked up a nail too with in 1500 miles (rear)

As for my comment on trying Metzler - I have heard good things about them, but only owned 1 set forget the tread it was in 1987 anyhow and I was in Germany they were on a Honda 700 NighthawkS and were a big improvement in handling over the stock Dunlop.

Since you have a ZX14 Keep with the 165 + rating. Duh.

FYI I have no Track experiance
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I hear good things about metzeler also, had z6 a while back and liked them.
Sport touring is my only option on rear, ride too many miles to be buying tires all the time. My only track experience is a couple parade laps,haha. But I do want and need a track ho. What's up with the nails in tires, I have had three on this bike in 30,000 miles
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on my C-14 the pr2's last over three times longer than the BT021's.
They both handle and grip well.
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i know you didn't mention these, but have had the Avon Av55/56. I did not like the front on the busa as it tends to cup and get really rough i think due to the tread pattern, but the rear tire felt very good to me and i got 9K miles out of it
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I also run a zx14 but i run shinko stealths 200/50ZR17. Good over all grip and the price was decent at $189. As for life i have got about 4g out of them so far and still seem to have decent tread and ask anyone who knows me, im not exactly "nice" to my tread
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Can't go wrong on the Bt016s or the PPs.... Pilot road 2s will get you the most mileage out of the three though.

My favorite all time tire is still the BT010s...they hooked good, good in the rain, lasted a long time, probably at least 7-8k on the rear of a busa and best yet, they were cheap.... You could get 200/50/17s from MAW for $125.... Not sure why they quit making them but it seriously me off. The fronts were prone to cupping but not until 5-6k miles and even then you could still run em another couple thou....
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i don't like the 200/50's because they are so flat in the middle, i prefer the 180/55's due to better cornering ability but it's harder to get them to last as long riding straight due to them having less rubber on the road to take the bike's weight
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I did the same 16 front and 21 rear on my Duc, had the Pilot Road 2's previously. I cant really tell much difference between the two myself, both are good tires. Personally, I just dont like michelin price tag.

I am actually going to get a bt21 on my R6 today or tomorow, to replace a crappy shinook.
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I have BT016 on my zx14 and love it. I was going to get pilot powers and got these instead they were a bit cheaper and I am glad I did I really don't see myself trying any other tires.
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Lot of good info. here, just what I was looking for. Thanks to all for the help.
Still not decided but maybe kinda sorta leaning toward stones, basically just to try something new/different.
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I ddin't care for the feel of Metzler M3's

I run Pilot Powers and normally get close to 5000 on a rear, but I don't do much highway, always look for the backroads first.

My buddy pigpen had some Stones on his ZX12R but I don't know what model; pretty sure they were more sport than touring.

I am leaning more towards the Pilot Road 2CT next time around, since the center is harder with the same compound and profile I am used to.

I would stick with a standard compound on the front unless you are getting bad wear patterns. Cupping I would look at the suspension and balancing...
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I've run the BT-021's before and have gotten about 10k+ out of them with normal riding. I'm on my second set now after running a couple of other types of tires before.
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