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Old 04-24-2009, 05:18 PM   #1
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Frank Thomas Opinions

Hmmmm.... my other thread seems to have stalled after several very helpful comments. So here's another one:

Who has an opinion on Frank Thomas one-piece leather riding suits? There are a couple in the MH classifieds right now. For me it's kinda a toss-up right now between a Kobe and a Frank Thomas. Would anyone care to suggest that one is seriously better than the other or are they about the same?

FT used or Kobe discounted hits my price range reasonably well. Maybe next month I'll score some gloves here on MH.
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Old 04-24-2009, 05:23 PM   #2
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I used a Frank Thomas suit for a season and half.

They are OK but I stepped up a notch to a Fieldsheer.

There are a million opinions about this out there and the truth is NO suit is gonna protect against everything.
Every mfr has some horror stories and some satisfied customers.

Generally though it is a "get what you pay for" kinda thing. The better suits cost more.
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CG is having a special of 1 piece leathers, boots and gloves for 599. That sounds pretty good, I am not looking for a new suit though.
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Old 04-25-2009, 05:15 PM   #4
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Thanks for the input, bumblebee: I seriously appreciate it.

I hear the "get what you pay for" message. OTOH, I'm a big believer in the $50 helmet (brand-new from CG, Snell and DOT certified -- on sale last fall). What I didn't pay for was a popular name, fancy graphics, and perhaps a little less weight or a little less noise.

Just getting into track riding, it sounds like the FT would be a fine place to start. Too many necessary things -- too little cash! Used gear from the forums FTW! :-)
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Thanks for the input, bumblebee: I seriously appreciate it.

I hear the "get what you pay for" message. OTOH, I'm a big believer in the $50 helmet (brand-new from CG, Snell and DOT certified -- on sale last fall). What I didn't pay for was a popular name, fancy graphics, and perhaps a little less weight or a little less noise.

Just getting into track riding, it sounds like the FT would be a fine place to start. Too many necessary things -- too little cash! Used gear from the forums FTW! :-)
What is you height/weight?
I'm 5'11" and around 200lbs. If you are interested maybe we could work a deal on my FT.
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Old 04-25-2009, 05:38 PM   #6
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What is you height/weight?
I'm 5'11" and around 200lbs. If you are interested maybe we could work a deal on my FT.
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I have a Frank Thomas one piece suit that I wear for track days. Personally, for the money, it is not a bad deal. Now, I haven't tested it out on a crash yet, but I feel that the construction is solid enough to hold up in the event of a crash. The leather was soft, and the fit was right for me.
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Thanks, QTip. That's kinda' what I'm thinking. I'm a novice, cautious by nature, riding a 600 class bike (current top speed = 90!). I don't know that the small marginal increase in protection is going to be worth the doubling/trebling/+++ in price that I'm likely to see at this juncture. I'm trying to find the cheaper end of the spectrum of competent, track-worthy suits.

I'm fairly convinced that a lot of the more expensive helmets aren't providing ANY more protection for the price difference. They're trading on their other features, as mentioned above. I expect leathers to be the same to some degree. While I'm sure there are some substantive differences (better a full-face helmet than a half!), I figure a lot the disparities are paying for name, fashion, etc. The same YKK zippers are used in all sorts of suits. As an example.

Maybe going around the block (track!) a few more times I'll acquire more subtle insight into this whole matter.

So I've more or less picked my poison: but I appreciate the affirmation, QTip!
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I have worn FT gear since I started riding. Mesh jackets, nylon cordura, leather jackets, rain gear, leather pants, leather gloves. all of their stuff is decent quality and i dont think for the price you can really beat it. what i really like about FT is that CG stands behind all the products 100%. I wore a FT leather jacket for 6 months on a daily basis and the zipper started failing. I took it into CG and they gave me a brand new one, no questions asked.
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I used to work for CG and honestly FT even in England was considered low grade. BKS suits have now dropped in quality since being aquired by FT.

The only reason we sold FT and said it was a great was for spiffs.

The whole suit package brings a guy like 15 bucks that he wouldnt get from selling an Astar or Dainese.

We even had a special form for all the defective FT that had to be sent back.

There is a reason why CG is the "Exclusive FT Dealer".
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I have a FT I purchased in 2001 from CG, it has some nice features and looks well made. I had a lowside at TWS (Texas World Speedway)' horseshoe. The suit held pretty well. Last year I tried one of the new FT's and wasn't very satisfied with the quality even at the low prices CG has them at. I would look into Spartan suits for the price range. You'll have to wait a bit, but is well worth it. Spartan suits in my opinion are great suits. Material, workmanship are top notch. And the price? you can't beat it. Well worth more than what Dave charges. You cannot beat price quality, and the custom fit.

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OK I have not read any other comments,

I think they are great for your 1st pair of leathers, sure there are better but they are great for the price. the zipper could be a little stronger and maybe wear a nice back protector if your really serious.
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I have a FT I purchased in 2001 from CG, it has some nice features and looks well made. I had a lowside at TWS (Texas World Speedway)' horseshoe. The suit held pretty well. Last year I tried one of the new FT's and wasn't very satisfied with the quality even at the low prices CG has them at. I would look into Spartan suits for the price range. You'll have to wait a bit, but is well worth it. Spartan suits in my opinion are great suits. Material, workmanship are top notch. And the price? you can't beat it. Well worth more than what Dave charges. You cannot beat price quality, and the custom fit.

http://www.spartanleathers.com
, those are some nice leathers, the double zipper it's a great idea.
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OK I have not read any other comments,

I think they are great for your 1st pair of leathers, sure there are better but they are great for the price. the zipper could be a little stronger and maybe wear a nice back protector if your really serious.
I agree...only problem I have had with my 1 piece is the zipper, I have had the opportunity to crash test mine at around 45-55 ish and it held up nicely, by nicely I mean It didn't burn through and the suit didn't get trashed...as Dave said (1fc) great Suit for your first set of leathers, but if you can upgrade do so, but for the cost you really can't beat em
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I like my frank Thomas suit. I low sided in mine and it held up pretty good.
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I have a FT I purchased in 2001 from CG, it has some nice features and looks well made. I had a lowside at TWS (Texas World Speedway)' horseshoe. The suit held pretty well. Last year I tried one of the new FT's and wasn't very satisfied with the quality even at the low prices CG has them at. I would look into Spartan suits for the price range. You'll have to wait a bit, but is well worth it. Spartan suits in my opinion are great suits. Material, workmanship are top notch. And the price? you can't beat it. Well worth more than what Dave charges. You cannot beat price quality, and the custom fit.

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I let a friend borrow my spare FT suit and he had a lowside on turn 10 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and the seams just fell apart anywhere he slid. Total piece of . That thing will never be worn again.

I have had a 90 MPH crash in a Dianese and a 70 in an A-Stars one and not one seam came open in either and the thread hardly got scuffed.

If you must spend little cash on a suit, then buy a used A-Stars one instead. So many people are so hung up on having the pretty suit all shiny and new. I rather have a high quality used one than a shiny brand new cheaper one.
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