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Old 04-20-2009, 08:13 PM   #1
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so this weekend will be my 3rd track day in the past month. im wondering what you would upgrade to make the next track day a little easier and make more improvements. don't get me wrong i know parts don't make you faster but just want to improve the bike so that later on down the road im not making huge adjustments with many different parts at once.

i have upgraded tires already would brakes be the next logical upgrade? rear sets? lines? any info would be appreciated. thanks for the help
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Brakes are good. Pads and lines should be sufficient.

Having your suspension setup can help a lot (Motorcycles Unlimited does a great job setting up OEM and aftermarket kit). A good tuner can also tell you the weak points of your factory suspension regarding your weight and riding style.

Other than that, tires and tracktime will consume the rest of your expendable (and credited) income.
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quick, easy and moderately inexpensive, especially if you can do the work yourself or know someone who can.
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suspenssion set up is the most important step. Learn to do it yourself over time.

SS brake lines, race brake pads, and good brake fluid are always a great first upgrade

Once you start scrapin your stock rearsets in a turn, buy some aftermarket adjustable ones. I have scraped my stock rearsets twice and didnt faze me at all.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:40 PM   #7
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Take it from me. I used to dump a ton of money into bikes before ever throwing a leg over them only to get my handed to me by fast guys on bone stock bikes. Obviously, every rider has a different learning curve, but if you wanna make your dollars count, spend it on as much track time as you can get. You'll know when it's time to start upgrading things.
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Brakes are good. Pads and lines should be sufficient.

Having your suspension setup can help a lot (Motorcycles Unlimited does a great job setting up OEM and aftermarket kit). A good tuner can also tell you the weak points of your factory suspension regarding your weight and riding style.

Other than that, tires and tracktime will consume the rest of your expendable (and credited) income.
i've had the suspension tuned from them the last few months great place. i've been told that ideally u want both front and rear ss lines but the fronts the only one thats neccesary? what pads would u suggest? i still street the bike occasionally....and speaking of tires im running 2ct's right now thinking about switching to a bt002 rear and just running the 2ct front till i burn it up....good idea? bad idea?

thanks for all the comments guys seeing some of you guys this past saturday at msr lets me see where i want to get one day.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:48 PM   #9
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I'd be thinking about front brake pads, at a minimum. My recommendation is Vesrah RJLs. You can get them from SCRC John on the board. Great pads!!

You only need stainless lines for the front brakes. And you don't need to upgrade the rear pads either.
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I did, in this order.....

1. tuned stock suspension by Motorcycles Unlimited - before 1st track day
2. tires - before 2nd track day
3. ss lines and pads - before 3rd track day
4. body work - once i knew I was hooked
5. gearing - once I was looking for more time
6. aftermarket suspension from Motorcycles Unlimited - once I started out riding my stockers at 250lbs.

30 some odd track days later, and I just ordered a full exhaust. My first full exhaust ever.
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i'd go with brakes and suspension setup first. ebc extreme pro pads, ss front lines, and some good brake fluid (motul or castrol srf). 2cts are great tires. damper and rearsets down the road.
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I did, in this order.....

1. tuned stock suspension by Motorcycles Unlimited - before 1st track day
2. tires - before 2nd track day
3. ss lines and pads - before 3rd track day
4. body work - once i knew I was hooked
5. gearing - once I was looking for more time
6. aftermarket suspension from Motorcycles Unlimited - once I started out riding my stockers at 250lbs.

30 some odd track days later, and I just ordered a full exhaust. My first full exhaust ever.
sounds just about what i did....except somewhere along those lines i added a slipper clutch, quick shifter, ignition modules, custom dyno tunes, race fuel, steering dampers, rearsets, blah blah blah....this list continues on for others who have been in the game a little longer than us all.

welcome to the world of being broke.....but having the time of your life has it's bonuses
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sounds just about what i did....except somewhere along those lines i added a slipper clutch, quick shifter, ignition modules, custom dyno tunes, race fuel, steering dampers, rearsets, blah blah blah....this list continues on for others who have been in the game a little longer than us all.

welcome to the world of being broke.....but having the time of your life has it's bonuses
seeing how fast u guys were on sat in advance was great....lots of work but one day it be great to ride at that level. one track day at a time tho.
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sounds just about what i did....except somewhere along those lines i added a slipper clutch, quick shifter, ignition modules, custom dyno tunes, race fuel, steering dampers, rearsets, blah blah blah....this list continues on for others who have been in the game a little longer than us all.

welcome to the world of being broke.....but having the time of your life has it's bonuses
werd. and after the suspension it got worse...

Trailer
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Now the exhaust
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and Maxgs is tryin to talk me in to data acquisition.
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in my opinion, you should invest in more track time or seat time work on your skills. You will know what you need when time comes.
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data acqusition actually helps you alot brandt. had it when i was karting. lets you see a virtual map on your laptop and can see where you are improving and where you are lacking. you can see how much throttle you had brakes g forces blah blah blah. then you can layer the laps and see where you went faster since you see dots moving around on a map of the track. helps out alot. youve invested so much just a little more wont hurt. link is what i had with an e-box

http://www.aimsports.com/products/mychron4/
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CDill, note that his timer is beacon based, not GPS. The accelerometer used for lateral G's does not work properly on a bike due to the lean angle. Lat G's on a bike require either a 3 pole accelerometer, a 2 pole with a lean angle, or a 2 pole with some cool GPS related math functions for it to work properly. That unit does not have the capability.

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and speaking of tires im running 2ct's right now thinking about switching to a bt002 rear and just running the 2ct front till i burn it up....good idea? bad idea?
If its only your third trackday and you're riding a 600 I don't see any need for a BT002. Especially with stock gearing, its VERY unlikely you're going to be spinning up the rear necessitating a much stickier rear tire than the front. If your rear 2ct is healthy, just leave it. I run a '04 gixxer 6 in the intermediate group with regular pilot powers, and don't have any problems with the rear tire.
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Brake lines
Vesrah pads
Scotts damper.

2nd phase
Race rubber(002 Ride Smart is enough to start)
Plastics
suspension
Clip ons
Quick shifter(I've never had one but it would be nice)

3rd phase:
Full exhaust
Power command
Traction control(might even go into 2nd phase)
Race rubber(the ones you need tire warmers on)
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If needed:
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Invest in trackside items such as:
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