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Old 05-21-2009, 10:01 PM   #61
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bought them for my truck just got them will install this weekend and report back with pics
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:46 PM   #62
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Can anyone answer this ?..I heard a rumor that if you have the HID's installed you lose the ability to use the pass light switch option..I have a 04 Gixxer and am considering converting..Not that I use the function all the time..just wondering,Thanks
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:52 PM   #63
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HID kits fail with no projector sorry
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:58 PM   #64
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HID's generally produce less lumen than your regular light, while yes brighter in appearance all the k is representing is color or temperature, k standing for kelvin. a projector vs a simple reflector set up like most bikes have is not adequate enough to focus the hid. I could try and explain this better but I really can't right now tired.
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HID's work great with or withought projector lenses.
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I can blind a bat at night or punch a hole in the space time continuim (sp)with mine. Get that ! I dont recommend more than 35 watt low though. The pass will come on quickly enough. Its way faster then some say.
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HID's generally produce less lumen than your regular light, while yes brighter in appearance all the k is representing is color or temperature, k standing for kelvin. a projector vs a simple reflector set up like most bikes have is not adequate enough to focus the hid. I could try and explain this better but I really can't right now tired.
i hate to disagree, but the lumens of a stock halogen bulb aren't NEARLY "close" to the lumens from a xenon HID bulb. HID bulbs produce, on average, about 2.5 times more lumens than a standard halogen. with or without a projector, hids are brighter. WITH a projector, there's simply less glare and more defined light - which will appear brighter. WITHOUT a projector, you still get the same amount of light (lumens), it's just scattered about as is your stock bulb lumens. so in short... HIDs are WAY brighter than stock bulbs. period, no matter how you slice it.

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Just for reference I have had Apexcone (parent company of DDM Tuning) on the M coupe, 636, Titan, 10R, and some other things in between. If I can trust them to build a headlight system using Hella Projectors for the M coupe while using new OEM housings I think you should be alright spending 40 bucks on an HID kit.

Jim Powell the owner said that this new kit (predator) is their own brand and will be going down in price in the years to come. They are supposed to be produced in the USA and his goal is to have the kits down under 20 (yes an entire kit is 2 of everything) in a couple years.

KInny is correct. Right now the shipping is slow. Sometimes it happens when you are shipping out 200+ sets of these things a week.
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Jim Powell the owner said that this new kit (predator) is their own brand and will be going down in price in the years to come. They are supposed to be produced in the USA and his goal is to have the kits down under 20 (yes an entire kit is 2 of everything) in a couple years
this new kit is the raptor kit... is that what you meant? and if that's true - $20 kits in the future - EVERYTHING i own that has headlights (even my coach lamps on my house) will have HIDs. haha
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this new kit is the raptor kit... is that what you meant? and if that's true - $20 kits in the future - EVERYTHING i own that has headlights (even my coach lamps on my house) will have HIDs. haha
Yeah that is it....Raptor...Predator...all sounds the same to me
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HID's generally produce less lumen than your regular light, while yes brighter in appearance all the k is representing is color or temperature, k standing for kelvin. a projector vs a simple reflector set up like most bikes have is not adequate enough to focus the hid. I could try and explain this better but I really can't right now tired.
Thats only if someone goes with the straight obvious color toned ones there the slight hued one which match the K of oem cars so I doubt they are dimmer.
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I just bought some DDM's for my 04 636.. don't seem to work that great for me. They are the 6000K ...

I am willing to sell them to anyone for the price i paid for them... PM me. Thanks.
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I cant imagine what the problem is. Mine are great.
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that link doesnt work. all i can find are the $70 kits...BTW That liquid silver R1 is my favorite bike ever!
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