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Old 04-16-2009, 12:50 AM   #1
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MSRH wet grip

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I've already signed up for a trackday this sat. and sun. at MSRH, and the weather is still looking crappy for at least sat. Just wondering how that track is when it's wet? I've only been on a track twice in the rain. Once was at barber back in '02 on my SV with metzeler sportech M-1s and the other was at grandsport in my truck this last feb when they let everyone take their vehicles out on the track to help dry it out. Both of those tracks had AMAZING grip when wet....almost got a knee down at barber in turn 2/3 and my truck had better grip at a wet GSS then it does on the street when it's dry.

Also, I'm running Pirelli supercora pro's right now and have a spare set of pilot power 2cts sitting in the garage for another bike. Would it be worthwhile to switch the supercorsas with the 2cts if it's raining all day? I've heard the pilot powers are awesome in the rain, just not sure if it'd be worthwhile to switch out tires for a day.
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:52 AM   #2
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GSS grips like no other track in texas....


BUT....thats about all you get.. lol
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Old 04-16-2009, 12:56 AM   #3
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please do not compare truck grip to bike grip, although i have found that wet track grip is still plentiful enough for my riding capabilities...just always keeping it in the back of my mind that it could get slippery at any moment...if that helps
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please do not compare truck grip to bike grip, although i have found that wet track grip is still plentiful enough for my riding capabilities...just always keeping it in the back of my mind that it could get slippery at any moment...if that helps

Just threw that out there because my truck makes about 400rwhp and will pretty easily break the rear end loose in 3rd gear on a dry normal road, and I could barely do that exiting corners at gss with water running across the track.
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Wet grip at MSRH is very good. There are a couple of sealer strips to watch out for but that is really about it. The bus stop exit is a place to watch out for as the camber is falling away from you and will fool you. Everywhere else just be smooth............
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I was thinking of this last night, too.

I'm running 003s and I'm not too sure if I shouldn't see about picking up something different.
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Grip is very good on a damp or wet MSRH. If the track is full wet and being ridden in the rain, however, you might want to pitch the DOTs for intermediates or full wet rain tires, depending on wetness level, as nothing increases your confidence level in the rain like a true track rain tire.

As for GSS grip, I disagree with Chris. GSS grip is good, but not in the same class as Oak Hill, wet or dry. (True, Oak Hill is far bumpier, but it's also 30 years older.)
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We'll only get a drizzle in the morning and will be perfect weather rest of the day watch and see
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I can tell you for sure the wet grip of a 2ct sucks ballz.
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I can tell you for sure the wet grip of a 2ct sucks ballz.
Joe that wouldn't happen to be the Bus Stop talkin now is it
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I'm with irish!

Tiatool- I'm not sure why you have this hate for the 2cts man but for anewer track rider they do just fine. I did 8 or so tds in the wet on them a couple of years ago and had no problems at all.

Riding in wet conditions you slow things down a bit and learn. As long as there is no standing water the grip will be reduced but for the most part be consistant. Go out and learn where and how your tires are gripping. Some of my best days were in the raina and then the sun would come out and man o man I had gained some valuable info from riding in the rain. It showed once it dried up!!! (On bb sorry for typos and long sentences)
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LOL I run 2ct's on the track right now. I am just saying in the rain, they suck, in my experience.
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Wet grip at MSRH is very good. There are a couple of sealer strips to watch out for but that is really about it. The bus stop exit is a place to watch out for as the camber is falling away from you and will fool you. Everywhere else just be smooth............
I've seen some guys go real fast on a wet MSRH. I think most of the sealer is off the race line anyways. With one or two exceptions. But, others would know better then I.

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We'll only get a drizzle in the morning and will be perfect weather rest of the day watch and see
I don't think I've been to MSRH when it was raining in the morning, without it clearing up to be a perfect day by lunch time.
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Tiatool- I'm not sure why you have this hate for the 2cts man but for anewer track rider they do just fine. I did 8 or so tds in the wet on them a couple of years ago and had no problems at all.

Riding in wet conditions you slow things down a bit and learn. As long as there is no standing water the grip will be reduced but for the most part be consistant. Go out and learn where and how your tires are gripping. Some of my best days were in the raina and then the sun would come out and man o man I had gained some valuable info from riding in the rain. It showed once it dried up!!! (On bb sorry for typos and long sentences)
So what you are saying is you like it wet?
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So what you are saying is you like it wet?
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We'll only get a drizzle in the morning and will be perfect weather rest of the day watch and see
Hope you're right! Although, i really wouldn't mind riding around in the wet a little to get a feel for how the bike acts.

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Grip is very good on a damp or wet MSRH. If the track is full wet and being ridden in the rain, however, you might want to pitch the DOTs for intermediates or full wet rain tires, depending on wetness level, as nothing increases your confidence level in the rain like a true track rain tire.
I was gonna try and get a set of rain take-offs as a back up. There were a few sets of practically new rain tires for sale on the WERA forum for like $150-$175 shipped. I wonder if John will have any low mile rain take-offs after the last couple of wet CMRA races?
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Hope you're right! Although, i really wouldn't mind riding around in the wet a little to get a feel for how the bike acts.



I was gonna try and get a set of rain take-offs as a back up. There were a few sets of practically new rain tires for sale on the WERA forum for like $150-$175 shipped. I wonder if John will have any low mile rain take-offs after the last couple of wet CMRA races?
I got a set Of Bridgestones from Sunday if you want to buy them. Only 1 wet race on them.
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I got a set Of Bridgestones from Sunday if you want to buy them. Only 1 wet race on them.
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