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Old 04-15-2009, 08:45 AM   #1
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Did you ever get to a point...

Where you thought there was no possible way that you could go faster? Did you ever hit a wall with your lap times and feel stuck? What did you do to get to the next level?
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:53 AM   #2
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stop being a puss and race, but not just just race you gotta put that ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr face on and push
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:56 AM   #3
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stop being a puss and race, but not just just race you gotta put that ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr face on and push

I did race sucka! On Sunday. lol I ran 54's...http://www.cmraracing.com/Results/20...&en=7082&cl=64 down from my 57's at track days. My thoughts are, where in the are another 5 seconds.

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Old 04-15-2009, 08:57 AM   #4
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I'm getting there now. I guess 1st step for me is a class with Ty howard or Larry Myers. (or both) I know you're running a much faster pace than me already so I'd probably learn more from you giving the advice
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Keep following faster peeps.

nvm... there aren't any for ya, dilly
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That happens to me at about every second track day. Then someone shows me something and its like, oh...thats a whole second I can shave there.
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I'm getting there now. I guess 1st step for me is a class with Ty howard or Larry Myers. (or both) I know you're running a much faster pace than me already so I'd probably learn more from you giving the advice
I took Tys class twice. That was where i learned that I can brake later, harder and further into the turn. That helped an enormous amount.

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nvm... there aren't any for ya, dilly
Sheeeeeeeeet! They are runnin 11 seconds faster in the expert class at TWS (Texas World Speedway). Im just trying to get 5! There aint 11 for me, THAT I am sure of.
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I know you're videoing every TD you do. Go back and analyze the outta the vids.

I'm SLO, but it helped me see lotsa seconds out there.

Obviously there's a wall for everyone, but I think you ride pretty well. You can get there. Seat-time... seat-time... seat-time...
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Brake later and harder from what you are now and carry more corner speed with a hard drive out. It will almost feel like you are out of control
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The main thing is to take small steps. Remember the faster you go, your suspension setup has to grow with you. You can't safely ride a bike that is setup for 1:57's and then consistently ride it in the 1:54's. I'd suggest slowly working on your riding and try to analyse the bike a little too. Both will need to get better for you to go faster. I'm not talking about equipment changes, I'm talking about geometry & adjustments.
Try to practice closer to your race pace from time to time, that way you can feel out the setup a little. Try to figure it out in practice, the worst thing that can happen is to find a weekness in the bike in the race. I know that sounds like it is "easier said than done", but a lot of the faster guys can ride within a second of their race pace in practice. This enables them to work with their tuner better and make the bike work.
Also monitor your tire pressures after each session. The faster you go, the more important the pressures are. If you overlook a 1 pound growth in between races, and then it grows again in the second race, it can cause grip issues. Setting pressures after each race is vital to performance of the tires from race to race.
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For me it took getting a new bike and one-on-one instruction. Not a generic "class", but one-on-one work with some fast and respectable guys.

I got with Gabe McLendon, Mark Niemi, Ronnie Hay, Garet Tomlinson and Jeff Grant and participated in the LSTD Advanced Rider School. This was when we were in the "pilot" stage of the program. In a couple track days time, I was well below my fastest times ever at TWS (Texas World Speedway) specifically. I've never gotten any results like that before and I've done all the " racer 'schools'" too.

You just can't get a better lesson than one-on-one which is why we added it to our curriculum this year. We've had fantastic results too with some awesome feedback!

In my example Brandt, I was "stuck" at the 1:55 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) for the longest time with my GSXR AND our endurance race bike SV. On the gix, I could hit the odd 1:52 if I was being towed, but not with consistency, and my average was certainly right in the 1:54- 1:55 range at World. On the SV I could run really consistent 1:56's and hit the odd 1:55. When I got one-on-one with those guys I immediately dropped time and am now consistently in the low 50's (51- 53's).

I've still got to find some time to get down some more, and I need to find some consistency at the lower lap times, but the one-on-one was the big difference.

I think John's got some valid statements too, but I haven't touched a or adjustment on the suspension and I'm still running the same tire pressures I did when I was running mid-50's. I literally have the bike set as it was set in Andy's shop the day we finished it.
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I feel I'm at a wall at msrh, but at TWS (Texas World Speedway) I feel I could get way faster, I just need to man up.
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Im starting to find this wall also. Im having to make suspension/geometry adjustments to suit my riding style. My bike is also currently set up for low 2:00 at daytona but i managed to get another 5 seconds out of it. Mind you it was not riding the way i would have liked it. I will be getting it readjusted soon and hope to find another .5-1 second
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Just FYI, I was leaning more on the fact that you need to be watching your pressures more. You set them the same, but at the faster paces, they tend to grow more on you so you have to keep an eye on them. This is for any brand of tire.
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