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Old 04-07-2009, 07:51 PM   #181
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"We have met the enemy and he is us."
That's pretty much it in a nut shell. +1

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The whole "ride your own ride" concept is why I stopped riding in organized groups. Unless the group is people whose skill is within a close distance to each other, RYOR is just bull. And it's not just skill, is how you feel that day - maybe you want to tear the road, maybe you want to smell the cow pies...

On rides I've been on, I've had people in front of me not being fast enough, or braking at the wrong times. That annoyed me. I've had people behind me that were faster than I was and I was obviously holding them back. That put a lot of pressure on me. The leader was also under pressure to pick a pace that would suit the slowest rider. And that just plainly sucked. I don't need triple digits, but doing the speed limit on a highway boring as , is not what I'm looking for.

I really really really enjoy being with a group once you reach a destination, or even a midpoint, but I prefer to ride solo, and truly ride my own ride.

Nowhere is this more manifest than on the forest ride.
Ride your own ride is hard to do in a group. Unless you are all the way in the back.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:17 PM   #182
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This thread is still going?

That's cute. Same exact answers and discussions as the last one.

Texlurch, Cdill, GuitarMan, now burnboy have much experience to share through what they have seen and experienced.(i dont mean to take away from others; I would never stop typing names if that were the case)

On that note, experience takes time... Taking corners fast etc can be done relatively quickly but its not just a physical condition that makes it happen. Over time your mind conditions to watch for things around the corners, follow the ourside paint lines to see if the road apex opens up or closes in, know to not pass if there may be a driveway coming up, know to not pass without waiting a few seconds to show courtesy to locals...

I rode a busa on countless forest rides as the noob leader; we had one slide out and three people ride off and come back on. I also told everyone to drop their egos at the door. Did they? Not all, only the smart ones. Last weekend I was on a bike the sportbike community laughs pulling away from bikes built for the track. Did I brag? Nope. I felt like riding that way, that day. I knew the consequences and the opportunity was there for me to ride with others I could trust, so I did.

"Ride your own Ride"..... I dont see the arguement. I'll be damnd if I give a chit what others think about my skill based solely off of speed. Fk off. If someone is pressing you, signal them around. If they are slowing down in the corners, you off, let them speed ahead in the straights; tell your leader of the group later and have everyone discuss it. I am too busy riding my own bike to have to ride yours too.

Add the accidents up all you want in and out of the forest. The numbers are just going to go up. If this community stops going out, the others we come across will continue to crash.

Fact of the matter is there are concerned individuals here that will not leave anyone behind, that for the most part knows those and surrounding roads around the area, that care about safety and have guidelines for gear.

They are called Forest Gnomes.

Im done; no more I can say in this thread. C some of you all on the next ride.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:28 PM   #183
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A lot of good things have been said in this thread. If it helps even one person it would be considered productive. This incident has hit close to home for me and has made me evaluate the way I ride the last couple of days. I'm done here.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:09 PM   #184
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i love 3090....you cant blame what happens to people on 3090 because of 3090

sorry for the loss, i havn't been on here lately because the website goes to mobile mode and its all jacked up, so i stopped coming over here.

im assuming coach daved passed, i send my condolences.

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Old 04-07-2009, 09:30 PM   #185
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Great post Matt, I couldn't have said it better myself. I completely agree with this part. . .
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experience takes time... Taking corners fast etc can be done relatively quickly but its not just a physical condition that makes it happen. Over time your mind conditions to watch for things around the corners, follow the ourside paint lines to see if the road apex opens up or closes in, know to not pass if there may be a driveway coming up, know to not pass without waiting a few seconds to show courtesy to locals...
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"Ride your own Ride"..... I dont see the arguement. I'll be damnd if I give a chit what others think about my skill based solely off of speed. Fk off. If someone is pressing you, signal them around. If they are slowing down in the corners, you off, let them speed ahead in the straights; tell your leader of the group later and have everyone discuss it. I am too busy riding my own bike to have to ride yours too.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:32 PM   #186
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I have always told new riders when following to ignore the rider in front of them. In fact, to assume the leader is doing it wrong so that they don't get sucked in. It is part of riding your own ride.
I've used that line myself, Joe, on bikes and instructing in cars. Always assume the person in front of you is doing it wrong.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:44 PM   #187
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Great comments. So much wisdom and well said. Haven't met Texlurch. His words are on point. This thread is better than past ones on the same subject. Consider making it a sticky. Dave left us with a lot to think about.
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Old 04-08-2009, 03:00 AM   #188
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I wonder. How many wrecks have we heard about, where they were going too fast and they were riding alone?
Seems like that has been rare. Then if so what does that tell you?
My o2 is that they then were trying to be someone they clearly were not.
You knew your limits and chose to not follow what you new to be yours.
Why? You need to feel that others think you are great? That your riding friends will laugh at you because you choose to have fun but be safe at the same time? Then are those people really your friends?
A real friend wants you to have fun but in a safe manner so that you are still friends tomorrow and not a pal carring your casket.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:53 AM   #189
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Haven't been here for awhile, due to dui, but back now. I have read the sad news and all this thread and many other threads over the news..My .02 is that some peeps are taken no matter what road, some taken for dumb cagers..I know I road the forest only two times, but.. First time I stayed in the back and watched all riders enter the corners to evaluate what was to come, why? Because the ride speech at McDonalds scared me on what to expect in the corners, so i played it safe. And was passed by another who wanted to teach me how to lean off the bike to take the corners faster. I wasnt there for that, just enjoying the ride, so I rode at my own pace. I made it home safe riding slow and can ride again another day on my same bike, another guy went down that day but was ok Leave the fast corners for the track days and watch ur surroundings while around other cars. Like everyone else said, I am no differant..ride at ur level and be safe out there guys n girls!!
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:41 AM   #190
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I went down on 3090, the very first time I was in it. At first I was kinda off about the fact I wrecked my bike but later on I was so glad that I had fallen. I learned from my mistake and now I know what can happen when Im careless. It made me a better but more careful rider. But I guess it all happened for a reason
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Old 04-24-2009, 05:24 PM   #191
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Old 09-15-2009, 01:45 PM   #192
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Old 09-15-2009, 02:32 PM   #193
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Really!?!?!?? Six months later...this thread needed bumping
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