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Old 04-01-2009, 11:30 AM   #1
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I am still breaking in my new KTMracer built 72cc (kx65) engine. I was tooling around on the bayou behind the house and there were quite a few joggers around so I was piddling in the low range a bit too long. I fouled a plug (B10EG) and had a stock BR10EG to throw in. I couldn't find much information on the heat ranges for the two different plugs, I just know the BR10EG is the stock model.

What do y'all run in your bikes ok the track? I plan on going race gas once I burn through this "break in" tank so I'll probably need to adjust the jetting some as well.
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Old 04-01-2009, 12:50 PM   #2
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I am still breaking in my new KTMracer built 72cc (kx65) engine. I was tooling around on the bayou behind the house and there were quite a few joggers around so I was piddling in the low range a bit too long. I fouled a plug (B10EG) and had a stock BR10EG to throw in. I couldn't find much information on the heat ranges for the two different plugs, I just know the BR10EG is the stock model.

What do y'all run in your bikes ok the track? I plan on going race gas once I burn through this "break in" tank so I'll probably need to adjust the jetting some as well.
Don't go to race gas. Its waay too big of a debate for me to post here, but if you find me at Katy - I'll tell you about the several hours test I did with 85, 87, 91, 93, 102 and 104 (i think).

Best combo for your bike is "same brand" 93 all the time. Chevron/Shell/Exxon.

Spark Plug, I am using the stock one.

Jetting I have no clue about about - we used a 230 this past endurance race. A lil on the "bigga side"
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Old 04-01-2009, 01:53 PM   #3
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Ok im stepping in on this one. RACE FUEL IS A CONSISTENT BLEND!! Pump fuel is not. You may buy at the same store but they blend different batchs all the time according to weather and time of year. Plus all the detergents and additives that can cause detonation and oil breakdown. I dont recomend mixing pump gas and race fuel even though the base stock is the same starting point.
Also how do you know what big John put in the tanks at the Shell station last night??. He may have been drunk and put regular in the Premium tanks which I know for a fact has been done. Not calling you out Mo but the motors i have built for the last 41 years like race fuel plain and simple. Shure it is more expensive but it costs less in the long run in ways of motor repairs.. A motor always likes race fuel as long as it is jetted correctly and tuned correctly. 2 stroke or 4 stroke... Wes
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Ok im stepping in on this one. RACE FUEL IS A CONSISTENT BLEND!! Pump fuel is not. You may buy at the same store but they blend different batchs all the time according to weather and time of year. Plus all the detergents and additives that can cause detonation and oil breakdown. I dont recomend mixing pump gas and race fuel even though the base stock is the same starting point.
Also how do you know what big John put in the tanks at the Shell station last night??. He may have been drunk and put regular in the Premium tanks which I know for a fact has been done. Not calling you out Mo but the motors i have built for the last 41 years like race fuel plain and simple. Shure it is more expensive but it costs less in the long run in ways of motor repairs.. A motor always likes race fuel as long as it is jetted correctly and tuned correctly. 2 stroke or 4 stroke... Wes

Only problem is people like to keep everything stock and then run race gas. After a while they realize its too expensive, and then they start to mix it half and half with race + pump.

What ever it is - if a bike is "tuned" and "jetted" correctly, then fuel is irrelevant. However people over look that, heck ask Damon or me how many top ends we went through this past weekend .

Jetting/Tuning is more important.
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:42 PM   #5
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might wanna recheck ur facts. i guess all those race teams just use race fuel cause its cool

I'm talking specific to the KX65 here my friend...

How's the recovery coming?
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:50 PM   #6
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not much recovering here. just suckin it up and dealin with it right now. i got tired of all the steroid injections & pain killers. they make me a bigger than normal. looking into disc replacement. that might be my next step...
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Mike Ingle and I were talking about you yesterday - we were like man you just cant find a bigger around... j/k.

Heal Up man, it could be worse. Disc Replacement - is only the beginning. Whose taking care of it? Insurance?
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Man MO . Fuel is everything PERIOD!! Crappy fuel crappy running bike no matter how you jet it...
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Man MO . Fuel is everything PERIOD!! Crappy fuel crappy running bike no matter how you jet it...
Yes Wes.

It is.

I don't think I made my point across clear. Its too lengthy, I'll explain in person.
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built motors like race fuel and out the pump stuff
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Here is my point exactly. Read this .
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