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Old 03-27-2009, 09:28 AM   #21
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Believe it or not... Godfather is still around... atleast the name is. Its right on par with the cheap ebay . sure it will work, but its not going to look good without some work. I got a set for my zx7 made by godfather and it was such a pain. I can get hotbodies for my zx10 cheap through Lockhart Philips (270 for the upper and lower, they're out of the tail) but I'm still not sure I want them just because of all the quality issues i've heard of.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:16 AM   #22
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We used HB for a couple years and NEVER recieved the $$$ from Contingency.
They said CMRA didn't send the info. But I was running the contingency back then. Then they said we needed a receipt. Faxed it to them and never gots my monies.

There is a whole nother story about them that I won't get into here that sealed the deal to never sell their stuff outta my shop again.

Tom, I've liked the Armour stuff that I've mounted lately. Easy to prep too.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:25 AM   #23
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We used HB for a couple years and NEVER recieved the $$$ from Contingency.
They said CMRA didn't send the info. But I was running the contingency back then. Then they said we needed a receipt. Faxed it to them and never gots my monies.

There is a whole nother story about them that I won't get into here that sealed the deal to never sell their stuff outta my shop again.

Tom, I've liked the Armour stuff that I've mounted lately. Easy to prep too.
Yeah man, I've saved the stories from the past and not posted them here too. I've just grown tired of hearing about "how much they changed" and "how much better it is now..." etc. B.S.

Armour makes some good stuff, I don't dislike it at all, it's just that it's too close to the Attack and Sharkskinz price to justify it's purchase. For the same or just a tad more I would rather get Attack personally. But I've been told I'm a bodywork snob...
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Old 03-27-2009, 02:29 PM   #24
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good info tom. hopefully i will see you next weekend and we can discuss that # plate... i was going to get a 450 dirt bike # plate and use it, but if you have something better that is awesome.
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good info tom. hopefully i will see you next weekend and we can discuss that # plate... i was going to get a 450 dirt bike # plate and use it, but if you have something better that is awesome.
I've actually got a yellow plastic number plate like an MX plate if you want it.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:52 AM   #27
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my R6 has sharkskinz race bodywork and i still use it even though when i crashed at texas world it got banged up a bit. we just zip tied the torn parts back in place. fiber glass is 10000000 times better than any ABS plastic . havnt dealt with anything else besides those 2
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It's a shame how far they're fallen in terms of quality / fit and finish.

I cringe whenever someone brings in a set they've bought for me to fit up.
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Tom,
I agree 1000000%!!

It's a shame how far they're fallen in terms of quality / fit and finish.

I cringe whenever someone brings in a set they've bought for me to fit up.
I'm going to write them a letter, maybe they'll read it, maybe they won't. Until they make some serious changes though, I'm going to continue to steer folks away from them.
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tis is a good idea,maybe get a list names attached to the letter.
maybe they just dont care......
surely they know of the problems.
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Have done it. Actually the set Larry ran at Daytona this year we made the week before using his OEM as a base. Only two scratches in the OEM where we got a bit impatient and they will buff out. Lots of fun........ and I have thought about doing a carbon set, but the thought of getting the weave to match up gives me nightmares. (And Tom my stuff you can bend back on itself.)
The chop gun is the way to mass produce if you have good molds and THAT is where most go south. Also consider that not only is Pepe and the boys doing the work for about a dollar and hour down there, but he molds get old and quality suffers and primer gets thicker. Chop guns will ALWAYS produce air bubbles unless you have the epoxy so thin it runs from the mold.
You think body work is a pain, try filling and fairing 50+' of boat hull from a crappy mold in Taiwan.........

Thanks for the feedback. Have you tried Vaccum bagging the layup to the mold. May help get those nicks out if you are't doing that already. Couple of nicks is a great success.

I've been kickin around the idea of doing some carbon stuff. We used to make our body work for the Formula SAE college cometion out our carbon from fiber. Won;t get rich but for the price I see for bodywork you can make your own. Aircraft spruce is a good site for suppies as will be many other exp aircraft sites.
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