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Old 03-26-2009, 08:05 PM   #1
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Hotbodies.... jeeeeez

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other than the fubar tail section on the top picture they both look ok.

i had that same tail section that i put on my 06 gsxr and i just cut it down to where it should be.

the top one is made for a MotoGP seat and probably did not come with a hole cut for teh factory seat. the bottom one is made to match up with the factory little tank plastic pieces.....

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BTW, you got an extra belly pan laying around? i need one to race.
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i'm guessing the green one is hotbodies?
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the upper to lower match up seems to be off alittle on the bottom one, but that could be installation error.
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Lower and upper fairing don't line up?
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BTW, you got an extra belly pan laying around? i need one to race.
I have on that tom gave me. It was for a 600RR.
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and my last thought, the top one looks like it is NOT made to work with stock exhaust. the bottom looks like you could fit stock exhaust in it. (lower fairing to back tire distance)
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The joints where they meet are very visible on the bottom.
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top one is shartkskinz, bottom is the cheapy bodies
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The Hotboddies is on the bottom. Right? Mine suck on fitment realy bad and I am getting a paint job on them and hope it is not a waste scince the farrings fit so bad.
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And ever thing you said about the quality is true. They cracked a lot just getting them on.
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i think this is on a case by case basis.
i have a set of hotbodies and it doesnt crack when on and the bike.
but a friend of mine painted it and he did tell me it was a royal pain to get it right.looks bad now,but really dontknow what he had to go thrue,he did mention bubbles and where the tail piece comes together on the edge9top and bottom)it needed reinforcement=time
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looks like the lower fairing rubs the back tire.

Anyone try making there own out of glass or carbon? I would think it could be done by popin a mold off a new set and laying up inside that with a film realease agent. Any boating enthusiasts out there willing to give it a try.
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I didn't expect so many replies at this time of the night!

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other than the fubar tail section on the top picture they both look ok.

i had that same tail section that i put on my 06 gsxr and i just cut it down to where it should be.

the top one is made for a MotoGP seat and probably did not come with a hole cut for teh factory seat. the bottom one is made to match up with the factory little tank plastic pieces.....

pick your poison.
The top one is a "Superbike" tail and is not intended to be used with the seat. It's reinforced and has some built up cross members (fiberglass) to hold the load of the rider. The intention is to use a closed cell foam padding to give a little bit of seat to the rider, but the rider with something like this is generally not on the seat very long.

I've also cut some of these superbike tails to work with a stock seat, it doesn't work as well as the "Superstock" tail sections do, but it'll do in a pinch. The blue/ white bodywork is keeping the Superbike tail.


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BTW, you got an extra belly pan laying around? i need one to race.
I think I've got something, but I'll have to look. I'm pretty sure I have an upper fairing that wold be perfect for a spot on your bike to put your numbers though.

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the upper to lower match up seems to be off alittle on the bottom one, but that could be installation error.
Good eye, it's one of the more obscure things about the fit. In person you can really see the difference. Not installation error, both sets of bodywork are installed by the same person, and I sat there and messed with that Hotbodies to get it to fit that well for hours!

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and my last thought, the top one looks like it is NOT made to work with stock exhaust. the bottom looks like you could fit stock exhaust in it. (lower fairing to back tire distance)
Man, I don't know about the stock exhaust- to tell the truth, neither one of them fit the stock exhaust 'cause I tried. The blue/ white one fits the lower part of the bike unbelievably well whereas the green/ white does not. Up close the M4 exhaust looks fantastic with the blue/ white as far as fit goes.
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The joints where they meet are very visible on the bottom.
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top one is shartkskinz, bottom is the cheapy bodies
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The Hotboddies is on the bottom. Right? Mine suck on fitment realy bad and I am getting a paint job on them and hope it is not a waste scince the farrings fit so bad.
Yup. It's not a waste though, like I said, it has it's place.

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i think this is on a case by case basis.
i have a set of hotbodies and it doesnt crack when on and the bike.
but a friend of mine painted it and he did tell me it was a royal pain to get it right.looks bad now,but really dontknow what he had to go thrue,he did mention bubbles and where the tail piece comes together on the edge9top and bottom)it needed reinforcement=time
I've seen a ton of Hotbodies sets over the years, I have a definite timeline on when they started going bad. Do a search on the WERA bbs for "Hotbodies" from a couple years ago- OMG those guys ripped Hotbodies to shreds over there!

Your friend is very astute. Regarding the cracking thing though, I'll bet you didn't try to flex it on purpose though, right? I've got some Attack bodywork in my shop right now, see if anyone wants to compare their cheap stuff to it as far as flex alone and I bet they chicken out long before I will. Sharkskinz too for that matter. It's natural, nobody wants to put their new stuff under stress for fear of it breaking or cracking.

With the Yoshimitsu, Pit Ek and F1 Racing stuff I've painted, I didn't even have to try to flex that stuff, it broke/ cracked in places just when I was sanding it! I had to be extremely careful with it when sanding so I didn't do any more damage, transported it on egg crate to the person when I was done with it, and began breathing again when it got in their hands so I wasn't responsible when they broke it!
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looks like the lower fairing rubs the back tire.

Anyone try making there own out of glass or carbon? I would think it could be done by popin a mold off a new set and laying up inside that with a film realease agent. Any boating enthusiasts out there willing to give it a try.
Neither set rubs the back tire, it's concave at that end to fit the tire. Supposed to add aerodynamics to the bodywork that way.

Lots of manufacturers make carbon fiber bodywork, trouble is the cost. You can actually make your own stuff (as you allude to) in the exact same way you make fiberglass bodywork. Again, the cost of materials is steep, but worth it if you have the tools/ time/ patience/ experienced person to help you.

You mention boat folks though- you might talk to Buck Beasley but I think he's really busy with hurricane repairs.

The other thing about most boat repair/ manufacturing places is that I don't think they use fiberglass cloth, the ones I've seen use blown fiberglass which is a similar but different process enough to not make it worth your while. Of course I'm no expert, so I could be way off base here.

I have a friend in Cali that makes really cool carbon fiber stuff. Search "Tygaboy carbon fiber" on youtube.com and you'll see a 6 part clinic on how to make your own carbon parts. He made an absolutely stellar SV once with his own carbon fiber bodywork and even a carbon fiber fuel tank!
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Thanks for the insight Tom!

There's nothing better than listening to a sprayer rant! Most of the time you only hear folks talking about how great their new bodywork is...unfortunately their opinions are based more on glee than actual experience of spraying (and fitting!) multiple or different sets.
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looks like the lower fairing rubs the back tire.

Anyone try making there own out of glass or carbon? I would think it could be done by popin a mold off a new set and laying up inside that with a film realease agent. Any boating enthusiasts out there willing to give it a try.
Have done it. Actually the set Larry ran at Daytona this year we made the week before using his OEM as a base. Only two scratches in the OEM where we got a bit impatient and they will buff out. Lots of fun........ and I have thought about doing a carbon set, but the thought of getting the weave to match up gives me nightmares. (And Tom my stuff you can bend back on itself.)
The chop gun is the way to mass produce if you have good molds and THAT is where most go south. Also consider that not only is Pepe and the boys doing the work for about a dollar and hour down there, but he molds get old and quality suffers and primer gets thicker. Chop guns will ALWAYS produce air bubbles unless you have the epoxy so thin it runs from the mold.
You think body work is a pain, try filling and fairing 50+' of boat hull from a crappy mold in Taiwan.........
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Have done it. Actually the set Larry ran at Daytona this year we made the week before using his OEM as a base. Only two scratches in the OEM where we got a bit impatient and they will buff out. Lots of fun........ and I have thought about doing a carbon set, but the thought of getting the weave to match up gives me nightmares. (And Tom my stuff you can bend back on itself.)
The chop gun is the way to mass produce if you have good molds and THAT is where most go south. Also consider that not only is Pepe and the boys doing the work for about a dollar and hour down there, but he molds get old and quality suffers and primer gets thicker. Chop guns will ALWAYS produce air bubbles unless you have the epoxy so thin it runs from the mold.
You think body work is a pain, try filling and fairing 50+' of boat hull from a crappy mold in Taiwan.........
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Well, my input is, Hotbodies is total ! I have sponsorship with them this year. Not that I'm fast enough to claim any their money. But I'm thinking I don’t even want it, if I was.

I'm holding back a lot of opinion in this post. But I will never go there again. Not to mention the quality, but they shipped me the incorrect tail section and didn’t ship me a windscreen. Man, I don’t see how their in business. I had to hack my set to PIECES to get it to fit. I think if you look at all their product offerings, their squids??
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