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Old 03-26-2009, 04:37 PM   #1
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NOOB getting first bike help.... (this is for the Dominican)

Ok, to make a short story long...

Nice kid at work. Has visions of Biker Boyz, Torque, Fast and Furious in his
head.... He wants a "Gixxer" bad.

He asks me questions, I give him my 2 cents. He knows I ride rain or shine,
used to race, have and have had bikes my entire life so he gives me
more credence then the average dude on a scooter.

I explain riding, experience levels, gear, the good and bad. I convince him
to take the MSF class. (don't want to see another dead NOOB but that is
a different story).

He takes the class and loves it. He's hooked and wants a scooter now.

Here is the rub...

He's young and impressionable. He's a good sized boy, 6'ish, 200+lbs.
I am sooo trying to steer him towards a EX250/500, GS500, Buell Blast...

They told him the same thing at MSF, he has read the saftey threads on
here, he knows it's logical but...

He's young and impressionable and a good sized boy....

He can buy a used small bike, put a couple thousand miles on it, get past
the freaked out faze, if he hasn't thrown it down the road sell it in six months
for what he bought it for and buy something more towards his liking....

OR....

Buy a modern 600 and pray he doesn't lawn dart it into something.

And before the "buy a 600" guys chime in, all the 2 wheel driving experience
he has is the 2 days at the MSF class. Thats all. Not riding dirt bikes, nothing.

Can anyone make a more reasonable argument then what I have. I have him reading this board so he'll see it.

Thanks and sorry for the length...



(BTW: I'm just to the point where I just tell him to go buy a busa and let me take out the insurance on his life...)
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:44 PM   #2
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He's young and impressionable. He's a good sized boy, 6'ish, 200+lbs.
I am sooo trying to steer him towards a EX250/500, GS500, Buell Blast...
if you're trying to steer him into a Buell Blast, you sir are no friend of his...
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:45 PM   #3
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I say leave him a couple of weeks at Racer X's house, that should do the trick. He will be getting one of these for the first six months

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Old 03-26-2009, 04:56 PM   #4
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yea i would say get an older modle 600 or so 2001 or 2002 lower power , he just needs to be responsable!?
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:04 PM   #5
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doesnt matter what we post cuz he doesnt know people on here, so if he wants what he wants we arent his parents you gotta let a man be a man and pay the price for being a man....















but if your that determined look up old posts of peeps who asked questions and didnt listen and paid the price either fully or half hurt...
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:05 PM   #6
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:07 PM   #7
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you can lead a horse to water, but ya can't make him drink.

and +1 to dildoman, no buell blast.
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:16 PM   #8
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My first bike was a r6, just put in the extra time and help em out in the parkin lots...show em some training exercises in a parking lot..ect.. Tell em to keep a level head.
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:22 PM   #9
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I honestly think he should start on a moped he will have a better appreciation for speed after that
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:48 PM   #10
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My first bike was the 600RR. No experience before that but, i started in parking lots, then subdivisions, then main roads around my area, then freeways, then jet planes, then space shuttles...lol jk, but i took it REALLY slow
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:54 PM   #11
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It's your first bike not your last. By an under powered used , learn how to ride, then sell it and get something more your style.


Welcome to a very addicting hobby. BTW come and take a hit off the track pipe if you really want to have some fun.
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Old 03-26-2009, 06:11 PM   #13
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you can lead a horse to water, but ya can't make him drink.

and +1 to dildoman, no buell blast.
lolÖ your unnatural obsession with manifests itself again. please get it checked out before your fantasy becomes reality (unless itís too late of course)..
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:47 AM   #14
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I started on a 250...had it for 11 months and then sold it. I was glad I started small, but @ the same time I'm not all ego.

If your buddy wants to start on a 600 and is set on that you probably won't be able to talk him out of it....much like I couldn't talk my cousin into getting anything smaller than a 600. BTW my cousin went down after only 2.5 weeks
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Think about how much cheaper it is to replace stuff on a smaller older bike VS. destroying all the plastics and pretty stuff on a new one. I highly doubt you are Tom Cruise or Jay Leno with unlimited funds. Plus once you learn more, that small bike will be lots of fun and if you get rid of it, you'll miss it. I wish I still had my first little bike. Riding is about riding, not having the biggest or fastest or best looking. It's about the smile on your face and the experience. You can get that on a scooter or a turbo busa. But I'll tell you one thing, you'll live much longer if you learn everything on the scooter first. The object is to gain as much skill as possible before your luck runs out. Get something smaller and enjoy the out of it.
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Old 03-27-2009, 09:48 AM   #17
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This is true.

My first bike was a 2007 R1. The last time I had been on a bike before I bought mine was when I took the MSF course, which was about 2 years prior.

I never had an accident on the R1. Did some stupid things, like drive to and from Austin twice, by myself, with only a couple of months of experience. I tried hard to keep a level head and be an overly cautious and defensive driver, and I think that helped keep me around today.

I got rid of the R1, and now I have an R6 for the track only
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:30 AM   #18
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My first bike is the SV650 I have. I guess all I can chime in with is, that its up to him if he can handle a 600 or not. Not taking into account more expensive parts/body work, I would say that if he can control his wrist and temptations, he can probably handle a 600.

I got the power to go fast and do wheelies (maybe), but temptation hasn't gotten to me yet in the 8 months I had my bike. Oh moments on the street that I had would have all been the same, if I was on a 250 (people trying to run you over, get in your path).

So I say, its up to this kid if he is gonna get bored of riding straight/slow, and start attempting to do wheelies and all within the first few months he has it.

Of course, if he gets a 250 or 500, he probably doesn't have to worry too much about temptation, as compared to a 600.

Just my .02 cents.
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Good hs is taking the msf course, thats gives him the basics.
His personal responsibility ,judgement, & skills will be the determining factor & outcome of his motorcyle experience.
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My first bike was a motor-scooter. Then at 17 it was a gs500. After a year on that bike I found a cbr 900rr and I do think starting off on the smaller lower horse power bike helped me appreciate the power of a bigger/faster bike.
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