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Old 03-26-2009, 01:21 PM   #1
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ABS good or bad?

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motorcycle licensing is too easy, therefore the bikes need to be as tardproof as possible.
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I'd like to try it out. I'd also like to try a bike with traction control as well.
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there was a whole write up about in in roadracingworld
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motorcycle licensing is too easy, therefore the bikes need to be as tardproof as possible.
i disgree w/ making it tardproof..........

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I read a review a couple months back... they said basicly the same thing as above... the one thing I found interesting is they took the NON ABS version... and had both an experienced rider and a unexperienced rider try to see how fast they could stop on both models...

after 16 trys... the ABS version stopped faster and shorter than any trys of either rider. the first try for both riders had the ABS verison stop 15' shorter!

the last try had the experienced rider stop 1' shorter on the ABS version than the non... and the unexperienced rider stopped 4' shorter.

4' is easily the difference between a wreck and a near miss... but even that was after 15 OTHER trys that were much greater distance...

I really wish I could find where I read that... very good article.
so basically even experienced riders can benefit from this tech.
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i disgree w/ making it tardproof..........
Natural selection is nice and all, but I don't want to have to pay the increased insurance costs associated with idiots binning their bikes constantly.
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well you'd think if anything ABS would prevent that from happening as much. though i doubt ins. will drop cuz of this.
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well you'd think if anything ABS would prevent that from happening as much.
excatly...............tardproof.
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I would like to have it on a cruiser or touring bike, not in a track ho.
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My opinion: proper braking is a skill anyone riding a motorcycle should have and practice regularly. Hate to see ABS diminish the importance of this skill. What if ABS doesn't function correctly? I have a BMW, so this is a distinct possibility.

That being said, the presence of ABS was a nice cushion to find the limits of traction for quick stops on my RT. Good to have that "shudder" feedback instead of a locked wheel to tell me when I got too aggressive. In real life stops I've had, I have yet to get in to that ABS zone, so I would say its presence has paid off in finding those limits during practice.

So there you have it, I treat ABS as a high $$$ training tool for proper emergency braking. Of course, I'm all for technology to help save the boneheads who never practice emergency braking. Never know when one of them will be behind me.
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cycleworld just did a comparo on the new abs linked system on the 600rr vs. non abs 600rr.
They managed to get better stop times on the non-abs bikes after several tries on all tests except for the wet.

The thing is, you don't get second chances in real world condition.
Not only that, but these tests were done by very seasoned riders.
Their best results were only a couple feet shorter than the abs model on it's first try.
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I don't like abs on bikes. I like being in total control of the brakes. Besides I like locking up the back wheel and sliding sideways like flattracking. I can do it on the gixxer and my chopper but can't on the goldwing because they brakes are linked and that ain't even abs and I don't like it.
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If abs could be cheap and on every bike, i'm pretty sure it would save many lives and teach people lessons. I've used in on a few bikes on test rides because people pulling out in front of me and let me say i wish i had it on my thrux. It's amazing what it can do, even in corners
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i don't see why not, i wonder how it would do in light patches of gravel
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LBS, when you apply rear brake press. it pumps some to the ft and vice versa......LINKED BRAKING SYSTEM not anti-lock LBS.......

keeps the bike on a level plane, vs nose diving

GW do have ABS though, i think thats what you have not LBS, i think only hte ST1300 has LBS


i have it too. LBS that is
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what about upsetting the suspension if you are in a corner?
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I have it on my Councours 14. I can tell through experimentation that it will work very well if and when I need it. It could be REALLY helpful in a wet road emergency situation. My feeling is that if I do need it, I’m already in trouble and it would be very welcome. It never activates during normal riding. Except cost, I see no reason not to have it.
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what about upsetting the suspension if you are in a corner?
more crashes occur in braking/cornering situations w/ tire loosing traction from overbraking vs upsetting suspensions.
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