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Old 03-25-2009, 09:13 AM   #21
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One would think steering damping takes away from the bikes natural feel. Like traction control, anti-lock braking systems, power steering etc. on a car
You will never notice any difference on the track or on regular street riding but you will notice when you don't have one when you put down a 133mph wheelie and go into a violent tank slapper or coming out of the carasel the back in cuts loose and you are in another tank slapper thinking this is going to hurt.

Get an adjustable ohlins. So you can crank it up when ridiing hard or stunting and crank it down when you are riding it like a harley around town.

Get one. Unless you enjoy crashing violently.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:15 AM   #22
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I've been riding / racing over 30 years and don't own a bike without one.

I don't know of ANY experienced track rider or stunter who will tell you otherwise.
Some of the advanced stunters are actually running TWO of them.

But hey, if you don't want to take everyones advice, most of which is given from experienced riders, why ask the question and then argue it?
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:15 AM   #23
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One would think steering damping takes away from the bikes natural feel. Like traction control, anti-lock braking systems, power steering etc. on a car
ONE would think. The rest would disagree. A good damper will offer little to no resistance at bar speeds necessary for turning the bike, and offer much more resistance at the bar speeds typical of headshake.
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You will never notice any difference on the track or on regular street riding but you will notice when you don't have one when you put down a 133mph wheelie and go into a violent tank slapper or coming out of the carasel the back in cuts loose and you are in another tank slapper thinking this is going to hurt.

Get an adjustable ohlins. So you can crank it up when ridiing hard or stunting and crank it down when you are riding it like a harley around town.

Get one. Unless you enjoy crashing violently.
Hey, I think bill made a contribution to MH for a second there.
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Like everyone has said. Get one, you'll be glad you did (even if you don't know it).
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There are no excuses to NOT have one, except ignorance. If you ride fast, or think you do, get one.

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It seems no one is against steering dampers, but yet when I go to meets only a few people have them. If they are an absolute "must have" why doesn't everyone have one?

This about this... most people are morons.. plain and simple. LOL

in reality.. many people are just uneducated.. same reason you see people riding with no gear... some of them really just don't know any better.

It can also depend on the bike and how much of a tendency it has to get light on the front end exiting corners.

My ZX7R for example, was intentionally designed to be heavy over the front... i think it was a 54/46 ratio favoring the front wheel. This was done to keep the front end planted and increase the stability in corners. Bad for stunting... great for cornering.. I didn't use a dampener on that bike.

My ZX10 however, gets very light accelerating through corners and will easily pull the front end up co,ming out of corners if some throttle respect isn't given. ON this bike, I have one. infact, it came with one... that honestly I don't push hard enough to need, but the way I see it... Its like a gun or a condom... I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it
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Dude sounds hard headed about a dampner let him have a violent tank slapper once and see how fast he orders one from Patrick if he lives through it.
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Get one.

I have had teammates that tinker (adjust) the dampner every time they get on the bike. Me personally, I don't usually mess with it.

The only time I've experienced it affecting the 'feel' of the bike is when they are cranked all the way up. I prefer the lower settings (like #3 out of 10). That way it still dampens when needed, but doesn't make the steering 'stiff' which will hide some of the 'feel' I want from the front end.
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is there a difference between a steering damper and a steering stabilizer?
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is there a difference between a steering damper and a steering stabilizer?

Same thing.
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So this is the same as that?
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It seems no one is against steering dampers, but yet when I go to meets only a few people have them. If they are an absolute "must have" why doesn't everyone have one?
What meets are you going to? A lot of modern bikes have them as stock. Or at least, every gixxer has since '04.....
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So this is the same as that?
just a different style.
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So this is the same as that?
they accomplish the same goal, yes.
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just a different style.
So is one style better than the other? It appears the "top" mounted one is easily adjustable where as the damper appears to be not as accesable and easy to adjust. Is that a correct statement?
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So which is considered better? I have the damper on my GSXR. I think it is stock. Any idea if they come stock on the 06 GSX600R?
They do come stock. The one you have is better than nothing...But nothing compared to an after market unit. Personally, I prefer the scott's bc they are more likely to survive a crash. Also, from what I've read cheaper to maintain.
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So which is considered better? I have the damper on my GSXR. I think it is stock. Any idea if they come stock on the 06 GSX600R?

yes they come stock on an '06 gixxer6. It'll be hiding under the fairing stay. Which is better? To me it doesn't really matter. I've had both kinds. One type is obviously easier to make adjustments on while riding, but for trackdays.......you don't want to be doing that type of thing anyway.
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