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Old 04-22-2012, 09:43 PM   #41
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Old 04-23-2012, 10:18 AM   #42
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FC ins. and you have nothing to worry about. I do what I can to prevent theft, but Im not gonna go crazy watching it when Im out.
Yep. I'm not giving my bike away, but not gonna spend a fortune and waste time because some low life MIGHT decide to steal my bike... which is insured anyways.
I ride it everyday... it simply isn't worth the extra cost/time for a storage unit. For what a garage costs at an apartment, I could buy another bike.
I do however have it right out the window.

Lojack might be worth it... only to catch the theives... I don't want the bike back. It'll be damaged, and insurance will replace it anyways. I'd just want the theives charged... and hopefully off the streets.


BTW... I know this doesn't apply to all bikes. You don't ever see Ducs and Aprillias left out.
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BTW... I know this doesn't apply to all bikes. You don't ever see Ducs and Aprillias left out.
I'm going to reckon that's because a dude that can afford a $22k toy can also afford to live at a place with a garage.
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Im curious, you recommend me not leaving my bike at the movies and to buy lo jack. Wouldn't someone or a team of people who steal bikes, acknowledge the fact that some bikes have lo jack and disable it or disconnect the battery. im not fully sure how lo jack works, but if someone wants to steal your car with a nice viper alarm system. they can get around that system if they want your car.
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True, but those that just chunk a bike into a pickup and take off will be caught off-gaurd.

And usually it's hidden a bit. As well as not really expected since most of us don't have it.
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True, but those that just chunk a bike into a pickup and take off will be caught off-gaurd.

And usually it's hidden a bit. As well as not really expected since most of us don't have it.
Well I guess to find out, we would need to figure out how LoJack is installed. I guess its up to the installer on how secret the install is. But from what I just read, it gets power from the battery.

So unless lo jack had a back up battery, your out of luck.
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Well I guess to find out, we would need to figure out how LoJack is installed. I guess its up to the installer on how secret the install is. But from what I just read, it gets power from the battery.

So unless lo jack had a back up battery, your out of luck.
From the Lojack manual, FAQ section:

"Where does LoJack Early Warning® get its power from?

The unit obtains its power from the motorcycle’s battery. The LoJack
Early Warning® also has a back-up battery."


The early warning is what notifies you if the bike is moved without the keyfile present. I dont know if that paragraph means that "you'll still be notified the bike is moved, but we won't be able to find it" or that the whole system will keep being functional through the backup battery...

This got me puzzled, thought my lojack was running on its own battery, charging from my bikes battery. Might call them one of these days and make sure...
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From the Lojack manual, FAQ section:

"Where does LoJack Early Warning® get its power from?

The unit obtains its power from the motorcycle’s battery. The LoJack
Early Warning® also has a back-up battery."


The early warning is what notifies you if the bike is moved without the keyfile present. I dont know if that paragraph means that "you'll still be notified the bike is moved, but we won't be able to find it" or that the whole system will keep being functional through the backup battery...

This got me puzzled, thought my lojack was running on its own battery, charging from my bikes battery. Might call them one of these days and make sure...
Id be willing to bet, people who are looking for top dollar bikes know all about lo jack and what to do.
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Id be willing to bet, people who are looking for top dollar bikes know all about lo jack and what to do.
Oh yeah, I'm sure there's some "Gone in 60 seconds" "professional" thieves out there.

But there's also cases of a few guys with a pick up truck, probably f*cked up on drugs and an IQ of (-50) combined between them, thats where lojack, alarms, chains etc come to play.

On the other hand, lojack costs about as much as a years worth of insurance (maybe more depending on each ones rates) and discount isn't that great if u have it installed. I am not sure any more if its worth it unless you plan on having only liability or you feel your bike is not replaceable...
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Check out "Drone".......I have one, it has GPS , can pinpoint the EXACT location of the bike!
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Im curious, you recommend me not leaving my bike at the movies and to buy lo jack. Wouldn't someone or a team of people who steal bikes, acknowledge the fact that some bikes have lo jack and disable it or disconnect the battery. im not fully sure how lo jack works, but if someone wants to steal your car with a nice viper alarm system. they can get around that system if they want your car.
most bike thieves arent "professionals". just random low lives that dont know their from their elbow. and if they did disconnect the batter, the lo jack system will run under its own power for a while.
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Drone my friends.......DRONE........I am looking at the precise location of my bike right now Via "Blue Dot".......It's in the shop.....Errrr.....a few mods;-)))
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Here is a bike, that had lo jack and was stolen

Sounds like Lo Jack wasn't able to help him, as he stated:

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Had lojack but it's useless for motorcycles... by the time it's activated from the police report chances are it's already been found.

On a car, lo jack could be in a thousand places, motorcycle you have very few spots.
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Drone my friends.......DRONE........I am looking at the precise location of my bike right now Via "Blue Dot".......It's in the shop.....Errrr.....a few mods;-)))
Well, besides the fact that you need to pay a monthly or annual subscription for all GPS products out there, I think they are more useless than lojack IMO because
1) it is equally easy to find the device on the bike, if not easier.
2) They do not cooperate with the police in any way, you have to call it in or try to recover it yourself which would be pretty stupid and dangerous
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3) GPS does not work everywhere. If your bike goes into a garage/basement or some other place that it can't triangulate the position, you're screwed. There's a better chance with lojack cause it uses RFID, practically transmitting through everywhere, but it doesn't work with exact position; its more like a device that tells you how close you are to the transmitter.


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On a car, lo jack could be in a thousand places, motorcycle you have very few spots.
That is true. But I think thats why they give you the Early Warning feature that cars dont have. The faster you go check on your bike, the faster u can report it and then it all comes down to how fast the police is willing to start looking. One should have a few hours from the time the bike gets stolen to the time it is taken to another location and they take it apart to find the lojack.

I dont know exactly how it works with the police though. Does any officer who happens to be in the area get a notification there's a stolen bike nearby, or does a specific unit have to go out and look? If its the second, yeah, chances are slim....

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If the degree (angle) of my bike changes while it's armed/parked, my phone (iPhone 4) starts ringing with the alert instantly............and out comes the 40.
And if the thieves are able to get the bike away......The GPS will lead directly to them (in Real Time)......To get to the 2 sensors, one must completely remove the tail section , and the entire nose ........its a little pricey , but worth every penny!
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