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Old 03-19-2009, 03:17 PM   #21
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Rule #1 should be, don't crash. Jus sayin.
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:58 PM   #22
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Hey! It's the "prepare for crash and impact discussion" again!

I can't remember many of my highsides, which is probably good and is certainly normal, but, of those that I do remember, I remember having near zero time and ability to actually do anything that would resemble an effective evasive maneuver. If you have the time to see it coming after a violent highside, chances are that instinct will kick in and hands/arms will come out to break the fall no matter what you think is best. Inate self-preservation is funny like that.

Lowsides are a different thing a lot of the time. Unless I immediately impact something, I may have the time and even the ability to make small changes to body position and limb placement; I have had some time to think about some crashes while they were happening. Sometimes the actual crash feels like it's taking a long time, like when the front tucks, slides and eventually lets go completely. Sometimes you save it with your knee and sometimes you save it by pure luck, which gives the illusion that you actually know what you're doing. Sometimes you don't save it at all. I've saved some crashes when I could feel them happening by doing the right thing, and other times I have crashed anyway, regardless of what I tried to do.

Even though I have crashed a time or thirty, few save for Ruben Xaus and Carlos Checa, are more qualified than Schwantz to give advice on how to crash. Anyone who has crashed a lot, including Schwantz himself, will tell you that the "Hmmm. Oh, dear. I seem to have highsided. Okay, no problem. I have about one half second to think about the best way to land before I land" notion is largely wishful thinking. Many, maybe even most, times it's just not possible to even consider preparing for impact. But, I guess, if you have the time, do it.

I'm pretty sure what's going through Rossi's mind here is not, "Okay, highside. Now, how to land from this?" but is instead something like, "Figlio di puttana!"

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Old 03-20-2009, 07:38 AM   #23
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Too many years playing goalkeeper, and now "crashing" is second nature to me. The only times I've hurt myself are when I didn't get clear of the bike.
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Too many years playing goalkeeper, and now "crashing" is second nature to me. The only times I've hurt myself are when I didn't get clear of the bike.
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Hey! It's the "prepare for crash and impact discussion" again!

I can't remember many of my highsides, which is probably good and is certainly normal, but, of those that I do remember, I remember having near zero time and ability to actually do anything that would resemble an effective evasive maneuver. If you have the time to see it coming after a violent highside, chances are that instinct will kick in and hands/arms will come out to break the fall no matter what you think is best. Inate self-preservation is funny like that.

Lowsides are a different thing a lot of the time. Unless I immediately impact something, I may have the time and even the ability to make small changes to body position and limb placement; I have had some time to think about some crashes while they were happening. Sometimes the actual crash feels like it's taking a long time, like when the front tucks, slides and eventually lets go completely. Sometimes you save it with your knee and sometimes you save it by pure luck, which gives the illusion that you actually know what you're doing. Sometimes you don't save it at all. I've saved some crashes when I could feel them happening by doing the right thing, and other times I have crashed anyway, regardless of what I tried to do.

Even though I have crashed a time or thirty, few save for Ruben Xaus and Carlos Checa, are more qualified than Schwantz to give advice on how to crash. Anyone who has crashed a lot, including Schwantz himself, will tell you that the "Hmmm. Oh, dear. I seem to have highsided. Okay, no problem. I have about one half second to think about the best way to land before I land" notion is largely wishful thinking. Many, maybe even most, times it's just not possible to even consider preparing for impact. But, I guess, if you have the time, do it.

I'm pretty sure what's going through Rossi's mind here is not, "Okay, highside. Now, how to land from this?" but is instead something like, "Figlio di puttana!"

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Old 03-20-2009, 05:57 PM   #27
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I'm going to guess it about falling off the bike.

If you are seperated from the bike, get your body as wide as possible in every direction. Basically try to do a jumping jack.

In the air it's better to come down on multiple spots at different times...it breaks the fall and reduced the chance for body core injuries. It also helps with not digging into grass or gravel.

If you are on the ground already if you let friction tuck you into a ball, or fetal position, or just go limp you are much more likely to get "grabbed" (sliding friction is good, static friction is bad) by the passing pavement / grass / gravel and get sent rolling or flying. A smooth slide is cake compared to digging in an elbow or hand or knee and get flipped over and over again. Sliding is safe. Rolling equals broken bones and serious injury. Ask Rainey.

32 is good advice


NO! Jumping jacks while going 100 mph will break your arms and legs, Im not sure what he meant but sure he didnt mean that.
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:00 PM   #28
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Hey! It's the "prepare for crash and impact discussion" again!

I can't remember many of my highsides, which is probably good and is certainly normal, but, of those that I do remember, I remember having near zero time and ability to actually do anything that would resemble an effective evasive maneuver. If you have the time to see it coming after a violent highside, chances are that instinct will kick in and hands/arms will come out to break the fall no matter what you think is best. Inate self-preservation is funny like that.

Lowsides are a different thing a lot of the time. Unless I immediately impact something, I may have the time and even the ability to make small changes to body position and limb placement; I have had some time to think about some crashes while they were happening. Sometimes the actual crash feels like it's taking a long time, like when the front tucks, slides and eventually lets go completely. Sometimes you save it with your knee and sometimes you save it by pure luck, which gives the illusion that you actually know what you're doing. Sometimes you don't save it at all. I've saved some crashes when I could feel them happening by doing the right thing, and other times I have crashed anyway, regardless of what I tried to do.

Even though I have crashed a time or thirty, few save for Ruben Xaus and Carlos Checa, are more qualified than Schwantz to give advice on how to crash. Anyone who has crashed a lot, including Schwantz himself, will tell you that the "Hmmm. Oh, dear. I seem to have highsided. Okay, no problem. I have about one half second to think about the best way to land before I land" notion is largely wishful thinking. Many, maybe even most, times it's just not possible to even consider preparing for impact. But, I guess, if you have the time, do it.

I'm pretty sure what's going through Rossi's mind here is not, "Okay, highside. Now, how to land from this?" but is instead something like, "Figlio di puttana!"

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Old 03-21-2009, 01:57 PM   #29
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#30 has helped me before.

I went in pretty hot into Sugar & Spice at MSRH. I missed I was too focused on making a pass that I forgot to start getting on the brakes. Once I went into the turn I noticed my bike kept going wider and wider in the turn. I had a feeling in just any second I was gonna end up in the gravel. I just remembered that saying " If you think you went into the corner to hot, chances are.... you probably didnt. Just look where you want to go and lean harder"

Next thing I knew is I made it right through the corner. I was way off my line, but it still kept me from running off and more than likely crashing.


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