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Old 03-17-2009, 09:45 AM   #1
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So... Eagle's Canyon...

Well, I finally saw the downside to this track. Not that I wouldn't ride it again 'cause I will and will look forward to it too, but man it's not a happy place to be cold and wet.

One thing's for sure, if it's wet, you HAVE to ride rains. No skimpin' with DOT's here if you want to turn any respectable laps. On rains, the track is tolerable and it's possible to ride well. On DOT's, it just seems really tough to get comfortable even though the tires can probably do more.

Even with rains though the sealer patches are slick, you just have to take lines that take you off those patches is all.

Seems the smaller riders with minis were doing fine on DOTs though... I'll never know what that's like.

Here's the deal for me, ECR dry/ hot: funnnnnnn track that is a whoot to ride fast! Wet/ cold... hmmm, not so fun.

One thing is for sure though, it absolutely fits the paradigm of the new tracks, and you can definitely hone your craft to be a smoother/ better rider when it's wet.

When this track is hot/ dry, it ranks right up there for me as one of my favorite tracks, but it'll never top MSR (the only real MSR in Cresson) as my favorite in Texas!
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:29 PM   #2
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It was awful. I love that track too. What a shame to have to ride there like that. Was really tricky, I made it however. Fight another day, a dry and hot one, hopefully.

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Old 03-17-2009, 01:39 PM   #3
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Essentially it is a track that has low mechanical grip. It is easy on tires in general. Unfortunatly that translates to a sketchy track in cold & wet conditions. The worst are the patches. Even at the end of the day Sunday, the patches were like ice. Riders were having to adhust their lines to get around the patches.
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Old 03-17-2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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I love ECR...although I'd hate it in the rain/cold, but that would be true of any track for me.
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:10 PM   #5
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It plain sucked!! I fought the DOT's for the first hour and fifteen minutes. The sealer patches might as well have had axle grease on them! Austin crashed new paint job and helmet. Two years without any rain races but we're paying for it this year. I hope TWS (Texas World Speedway) is warm and dry!!!!
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Old 03-17-2009, 06:57 PM   #6
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so i'm taking notes... corner work on rainy cold days and ride on the hot ones lol
Let us knows which day is rainy and we all can ride on the dry days.
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:12 PM   #7
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Would street tires (i.e.-Diablo Corsa III or Pilot Powers) been a good idea in those conditions with the added silica in the compound vs DOT race tires?
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Would street tires (i.e.-Diablo Corsa III or Pilot Powers) been a good idea in those conditions with the added silica in the compound vs DOT race tires?
I wouldn't think it helps especially you are running at a crazy pace vs a sane person on the street riding conservatively in the wet. Maybe someone has experience with riding a street tires on the wet track would chime in to tell us if it helps.
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:38 PM   #10
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I wouldn't think it helps especially you are running at a crazy pace vs a sane person on the street riding conservatively in the wet. Maybe someone has experience with riding a street tires on the wet track would chime in to tell us if it helps.
I've ran 6 wet trackdays (4 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and 2 at Cresson) with rain tires (Pirelli and Dunlops). At TWS (Texas World Speedway) the rains were fun and you could run a pretty decent pace. Cresson is still sketchy at best even with wets on. I"ve also done 3-4 damp/drizzle trackdays at TWS (Texas World Speedway) with Diablo Corsa several years ago and before my racing days. I will say that riding in the wet/damp conditions on the track for a street rider is a great learning experience.
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I will say that riding in the wet/damp conditions on the track for a street rider is a great learning experience.

yes,maybe a good way to learn how to get good at body work and quicker on part replacement.
but on a serius note,i do believe that riding in the wet can be helpful to get smoother on and off throtle.if youre a late braker youre also gonna have to adjust IMHO.
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the only thing i learned riding in the rain/cold was how to try and keep blood and warmth flowing through my hands. i spent the few laps in the rain just trying not to crash.
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and that looks like so much fun....crazy people
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I did a total of 6 laps on Friday. Even with rains on the track had very poor grip. Sunday morning was exciting with the water running across the track. I still did pretty well, with a 4th in Lightweight twins, 1st in D superstock, and a 3rd in D superbike. I was well off my pace but was pleased with the results. Overall ECR is a very nice track and the owners seem to want to correct the problems that do exist. I for one am going to keep supporting them.
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