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Old 03-09-2009, 09:13 PM   #21
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:55 PM   #22
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1) First off, sorry you had a bad experience. Please understand that you would have received the same curriculum from us, just had a lot more fun doing it. BUT, I completely respect your opinion. You at least have something to base an opinion on and are definitely entitled to it.

2) I personally do not in any way believe that the MSF curriculum is the end all of street riding knowledge. I just think that it's the best alternative available at this moment. I base that on thousands of student evaluations, hundreds of students emails talking about how the course helped them, and the fact that everywhere I go, previous students come up to me, shake my hand and talk about what they learned during the course and how much fun they had.

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Fair enough, was just throwing my hat in the ring when I first read it but from the way it looks like this thread is going to go (like any other where MSF gets brought up) I wish I wouldn't have hit the reply button lol.

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Thank you all for the input.

Let me clarify by saying I have stressed the NEED to take MSF time and time again (to the point where he know thinks of me the way most people think of Racer X ) With that said he has backed himself into a corner by buying his bike first. He now has 2 weeks to get his M class or his ins. will be dropped and the CU won't be happy about that. The reason this means he can't take MSF before getting his M is b/c he works 6 days a week most weeks and has missed the last 2 weekend sessions @ Awesome Cycles. He assures me (maybe just to shut me up) that even w/his M class he will take MSF b/c of how helpful I've convinced him it is. I can only continue to bug him about it until he does take the course, but in the meantime I am teaching him to turn his head, look where he wants to go, push to turn, oh and the chicken wings I still use from Awesome Cycles
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there are other schools besides awesome, same material..... diff. presentation.

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Is it requisite to take the riding test in one's county of residence?
I don't think it's a mandatory rule. I have sent my friends down to the Pierce DPS office (59 South) where my in-laws work and had them take the test at their facility.

No lines, just a short cruise out of town to avoid the crowd.
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there are other schools besides awesome, same material..... diff. presentation.

it's all about priorities.
I told him that there are other schools he can go to, but @ this point he has to have his M class by the 21st. If you know of a school that may have a spot this weekend I can push that on him, but don't misconstrue the time constraint for a wreckless attitude.
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I don't think it's a mandatory rule. I have sent my friends down to the Pierce DPS office (59 South) where my in-laws work and had them take the test at their facility.

No lines, just a short cruise out of town to avoid the crowd.
But did they live in Harris Co.?

I want to get mine, but I'd like to take it in Travis or Kerr County - I live here.
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I told him that there are other schools he can go to, but @ this point he has to have his M class by the 21st. If you know of a school that may have a spot this weekend I can push that on him, but don't misconstrue the time constraint for a wreckless attitude.
where does he live?

so what kinda bike did he buy?
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But did they live in Harris Co.?

I want to get mine, but I'd like to take it in Travis or Kerr County - I live here.
Yep. Just spoke with my mother in law who works for DPS in the license dept.

You can take the written/riding portion outside of your residing county. You do have to do some planning to make sure there are openings for road tests when you are ready. Road tests are given M-F.

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After arranging a test time, an individual should have a licensed rider ride the bike to the testing facility (the person taking the test needs to drive a car (make sure it's up to date with reg, inspection, and insurance) up to the facility for the road test). A DPS officer/DPS Rep will then ride along and follow the rider for XX of minutes examining your abilities, yada, yada.

So all in all, yes you can take the test outside your county with some planning.
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where does he live?

so what kinda bike did he buy?
Friendswood

a Kawi 636....b/c according to him he's careful enough and would never be able to enjoy a 250 like I did b/c he's bigger than me
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anyways...gettting the M is not a problem, its the DPS that has enourmos lines and little time. it took me 3 days just to get a freaking spot to get the driving part done. and its always in the worse of time to do the driving part..cant do early morning and they cant do afternoons.
Perhaps my response will benefit you...try a DPS office outside of Urban areas. Like I said, it takes planning. My mother in law works about 40 miles SW of Houston. Is it a hike? sorta. Are there any lines or mean DPS reps to deal with? Nope, not my mother in law.

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Yep. Just spoke with my mother in law who works for DPS in the license dept.

You can take the written/riding portion outside of your residing county. You do have to do some planning to make sure there are openings for road tests when you are ready. Road tests are given M-F.

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After arranging a test time, an individual should have a licensed rider ride the bike to the testing facility (the person taking the test needs to drive a car (make sure it's up to date with reg, inspection, and insurance) up to the facility for the road test). A DPS officer/DPS Rep will then ride along and follow the rider for XX of minutes examining your abilities, yada, yada.

So all in all, yes you can take the test outside your county with some planning.

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stubbs offers classes at almeda mall
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what makes him any diff. so far from another noob w/ a 600ss that says he's gonna take MSF sometime, and is gonna respect the bike............nothing.

other then he's your cuz.

he's no diff. already making bad choices.
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<---Never took MSF...I'm a rebel without a cause and no respect for my machine....I ride her like a dirty . lol

note: MSF is a great training tool and highly recommended. However, generalizing folks who haven't taken the course into one group is dumb.
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take it in alvin.. just a trip around a couple of blocks.. no heavy traffic..
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stubbs offers classes at almeda mall

what makes him any diff. so far from another noob w/ a 600ss that says he's gonna take MSF sometime, and is gonna respect the bike............nothing.

other then he's your friend.

he's no diff. already making bad choices.
Ed I like how you only read what you want. I keep preaching to him about safety and how his new 636 is WAY too much bike for a noob, but I can't make his decision for him. Maybe I should just write him off as a lost cause b/c he's not making what most of us would see as the best decisions, huh

just called Stubbs BTW...4 day class for $295 WTF is w/the outrageous price! And doubt he would go for missing 3 days of work to take the course

oh and San Jac doesn't have anything until the 27th.
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Ed I like how you only read what you want. I keep preaching to him about safety and how his new 636 is WAY too much bike for a noob, but I can't make his decision for him. Maybe I should just write him off as a lost cause b/c he's not making what most of us would see as the best decisions, huh

just called Stubbs BTW...4 day class for $295 WTF is w/the outrageous price! And doubt he would go for missing 3 days of work to take the course

oh and San Jac doesn't have anything until the 27th.
stubbs also offers the reg MSF, the one you called was the HD one. maybe it's based out of clear lake kawasaki (they own them i think)

i know your doing the right thing, but now your seeing the battle i have everyday........

classes are all over town......see how your putting more effort into the class the he is.
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You're thinking of Mancuso. Pretty sure Stubbs only does Riders Edge.
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