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Old 03-09-2009, 01:27 PM   #1
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DMV riding test ?s

My cousin just got him a bike and I'm trying to help him work on the basics so he can go get his license (doesn't have time to take MSF b/c of work and time constraints but assures me he will take MSF). Can someone please tell me what he needs to work on (we've been hitting the parking lots) so that he will pass the riding test? Or can you hook me up w/a link telling me what he needs to study?

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Old 03-09-2009, 01:34 PM   #2
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the dmv test is retarded easy. if you know how to turn your head and look down side streets when/before you pass them, and use your turn signal you're going to pass.
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if he has no clue, don't make it worse by teaching him

if he has a permit he really has no incentive to take MSF.

and it's all about priorities.........make MSF one of them.
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My cousin just got him a bike and I'm trying to help him work on the basics so he can go get his license (doesn't have time to take MSF b/c of work and time constraints but assures me he will take MSF). Can someone please tell me what he needs to work on (we've been hitting the parking lots) so that he will pass the riding test? Or can you hook me up w/a link telling me what he needs to study?

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Old 03-09-2009, 01:47 PM   #5
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man i just threw away my paper copy of the driving test early this morning..oh well
i read my test before i threw it away and i remember a few things.
your bike needs to be legal, blinkers, horn, brakes, the works...
your bike needs insurance...there was a check mark besides the insurance box
you need gear..
so the officer will tell you..i honk once you turn left. i honk twice you turn right
he will check your head movement and your blinkers and your movement stopping and speed. so when you start getting near to a corner..you will hear the horn. you should proceed with turn blinker on, then slowing down and checking for traffic left and right and then proceeding. if comming to a stop, be sure to stop completly.

anyways...gettting the M is not a problem, its the DPS that has enourmos lines and little time. it took me 3 days just to get a freaking spot to get the driving part done. and its always in the worse of time to do the driving part..cant do early morning and they cant do afternoons.
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if he has no clue, don't make it worse by teaching him

if he has a permit he really has no incentive to take MSF.

and it's all about priorities.........make MSF one of them.
+2

Might as well start with a good foundation and attempt to avoid a few bad habits.
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Did you say something new?



MSF is good but NOT mandatory.
I've never understood why it isn't mandatory.
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if he has no clue, don't make it worse by teaching him

if he has a permit he really has no incentive to take MSF.

and it's all about priorities.........make MSF one of them.
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Did you say something new?

All I heard was WAAA WAAW WA WAW WAAAAA WA WA WAAA WWAA
Something like Charlie Browns parents.

MSF is good but NOT mandatory. That is another thread
Hmmmm........2 instructors and several others agree, so what exactly are you basing your opinion on???

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Ditto, but to be honest, I'm glad it isn't. One of the things I enjoy about teaching is that since it isn't mandatory, the people that are there actually "want" to be there. That's part of what makes the class so much fun.

Selfish, I know, but oh well.
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lol wow. PAY me I will make you safe. What a crock of !
Wow, now I have much more respect for your opinion. Thanks for answering my question about how I thought you would.

So let's see, no more handgun classes, mma classes, instruction at track days............, I guess we need to get rid of public/private schools also. Where's that thread about "how did we get to the top of the food chain"?

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Old 03-09-2009, 07:09 PM   #14
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Maybe you guys have the greatest MSF schools out there, but I did not have a good time in my class. my teacher was unprepared and didn't seem to know what was going on, to explain the lessons, and he had picked up some bad habits of his own

And I couldn't wait to take the MSF before hand and went in with a clean slate hoping to learn loads! So now I just cant see the MSF course as the end all of street riding knowledge.

Also for the record this was not a class taken in Houston
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I have 10 years on the street and 80k miles on 2 wheels. Never had MSF. Its that thing called Natural ability and a BRAIN, use them both and you will be ok. Keep banging your head and see if you can get some more hair-brained ideas. Dont be mad that I think your in the con artist group. Preach it enough they might believe you. "Pay me to show you, Pay me to show you" lol what a hack.
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My cousin just got him a bike and I'm trying to help him work on the basics so he can go get his license (doesn't have time to take MSF b/c of work and time constraints but assures me he will take MSF). Can someone please tell me what he needs to work on (we've been hitting the parking lots) so that he will pass the riding test? Or can you hook me up w/a link telling me what he needs to study?

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GQ,
Please understand that the reason I (and I think Racer X) would rather your friend take the MSF first is because we hear this story all the time. Somebody doesn't have time to take the class, gets in a wreck, and then halfway through the class goes "oh, that's what I did and why I wrecked".

With that being said, if your friend is dead set on getting his license without the course:
He'll need to go EARLY to the DPS office and make an appointment for the driving test.
When he shows back up for the test, he'll have to provide both a bike and a car. Both must have current registration, inspection and insurance.
He'll also need to provide someone with a valid license to drive the car.
He can either trailer the bike, or have someone with a valid motorcycle license drive the bike up there.
There is no standardized driving test in Texas, so I can't say exactly what he'll have to do for the test. Make sure he does very noticeable head turns, uses turn signals early, and comes to a full and complete stop with both feet down each and every time he needs to stop.

Do all of that and he should be ok. Hope that helps.
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Is it requisite to take the riding test in one's county of residence?
I would think that it would be ok to take it anywhere in the state, but to be sure contact DPS-Motorcycle Safety Unit to find out for sure:
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Maybe you guys have the greatest MSF schools out there, but I did not have a good time in my class. my teacher was unprepared and didn't seem to know what was going on, to explain the lessons, and he had picked up some bad habits of his own

And I couldn't wait to take the MSF before hand and went in with a clean slate hoping to learn loads! So now I just cant see the MSF course as the end all of street riding knowledge.

Also for the record this was not a class taken in Houston
A couple of points:
1) First off, sorry you had a bad experience. Please understand that you would have received the same curriculum from us, just had a lot more fun doing it. BUT, I completely respect your opinion. You at least have something to base an opinion on and are definitely entitled to it.

2) I personally do not in any way believe that the MSF curriculum is the end all of street riding knowledge. I just think that it's the best alternative available at this moment. I base that on thousands of student evaluations, hundreds of students emails talking about how the course helped them, and the fact that everywhere I go, previous students come up to me, shake my hand and talk about what they learned during the course and how much fun they had.

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