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Old 03-08-2009, 12:42 AM   #1
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I'm trying to figure out what tires (brand and model) for my 2nd track day. I don't have tire warmers. I'll put my street tires back on the bike after the trackday.
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Why not run your current tires? On your second track day it is unlikely that you will be able to outride a good street tire.
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i would keep whatever you have on the bike for the track if it's only your second trackday. you'll be fine on whatever tire you got on your bike. street tires are EXTREMELY CAPABLE of doing more than people think they can do. , they do the World Supersport races on STREET (pirelli corsa 3) tires.

but if you want to spend the cheeze, i would get bridgestone bt016, bridgestone bt002 racing streets, or pirelli diablo corsa 3's.

corsa 3's - for the dedicated trackday rider that does little street riding. has MORE traction than bt002r/s, but they wear faster as well. price is also up there.

bt016 - for the trackday rider that does a lot of street riding also, cost effective

bt002r/s - for the dedicated trackday rider that does some street riding also, price is not too bad, a little more than the bt016
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:22 AM   #6
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No need for race tires just yet. You might have a few more track days to go, to learn the track and go faster.
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:51 AM   #7
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I did two trackdays on regular pilot powers, and four on pilot power 2ct's. All good
But I think I'll be going with some pirelli's this season and put the 2ct's on my street bike and just wear down the middle tread now.
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+1 I Love my Ride Smart's!! I can instruct in novice and then go out and play as well and they always hook up. I used to ride the 2cts before the Ride Smart's but they would get greasy on me where the Ride Smart's do not.
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What? at 240/set installed, loose wheel. Why not?

I run bt016 on my litre bike for street riding and just recently switched from the 002rs to the 003's for track days, on a 750.

I always like to use Gonzo as an example of just how fast you can go on the 0002rs, before you ante up the big bucks for a race tire.

What is on your bike now?
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:59 AM   #10
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I always like to use Gonzo as an example of just how fast you can go on the 0002rs, before you ante up the big bucks for a race tire.
Yeah! I think everyone uses him as an example. He is partly why I started running them and continue to do so.
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I think you've got the hint about the Bridgestones, now all you need to do is follow up and contact John Hutchinson at SCRaceCenter.com and get some either delivered or bring your wheels to him so he can mount 'em up for free!
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What? at 240/set installed, loose wheel. Why not?

I run bt016 on my litre bike for street riding and just recently switched from the 002rs to the 003's for track days, on a 750.

I always like to use Gonzo as an example of just how fast you can go on the 0002rs, before you ante up the big bucks for a race tire.

What is on your bike now?
I have BT016's on now but, they are starting to flat spot. Not sure if they would pass tech but, they are good enough to ride the street so I don't want to throw them away.

Anyone know how I can tell if they will pass Ride Smart tech?
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I think you've got the hint about the Bridgestones, now all you need to do is follow up and contact John Hutchinson at SCRaceCenter.com and get some either delivered or bring your wheels to him so he can mount 'em up for free!
That is a great price but, he's in Magnolia
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I have BT016's on now but, they are starting to flat spot. Not sure if they would pass tech but, they are good enough to ride the street so I don't want to throw them away.

Anyone know how I can tell if they will pass Ride Smart tech?
How much tread depth do you have on your tires? If it is 40% or better in the middle then you should be good to go unless you ride it on the sides all the time.
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That is a great price but, he's in Magnolia
He can ship in lieu of the free mount and balance. And what level5 said in regards to tech.
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I agree with slowblack and tomlstd. BT002 are great for you and now that they are making BT003 the price came down on the 002.
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I have BT016's on now but, they are starting to flat spot. Not sure if they would pass tech but, they are good enough to ride the street so I don't want to throw them away.

Anyone know how I can tell if they will pass Ride Smart tech?
if you are questioning yourself and the org's tech policy......then change them.

as for anyone using alonzo (dr. gonzo) as an example of how fast you can go on bt002 r/s tires.......he is him, and you are you.

understand that yes, the tires may be capable of doing so, but the question is, are your skills capable? alonzo's got experience that allows him to ride the off the tires, but he also hit a point where it put him on his at MSRH last november because he found the limits of the tire and went beyond those limits, which is why he is now on DOT race tires.
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That is a great price but, he's in Magnolia
The BT002RS 120 front & 180 rear are $240 + tax shipped. Also The BT016 120 front & 180 rear are $270 + tax shipped
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My roommate ran in the middle to front of the intermediate group at most organizations on a pilot ROAD front, and a pilot power 2ct rear on an '02 gsxr 750. This should give you an idea of just how fast you can go on street rubber.

If you're only on your second trackday you're likely nowhere near fast enough to benefit from BT002s. In fact....its entirely possible that all you'll do is destroy these tires faster than normal because they'll cold tear as your pace isn't fast enough to keep heat in the tires. I had this problem on a gsxr 1k when my pace was middle to front of novice group.

In conclusion: there's no real "need" to consider trackday rubber until you're at LEAST in the middle of the pack in intermediate group.
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My roommate ran in the middle to front of the intermediate group at most organizations on a pilot ROAD front, and a pilot power 2ct rear on an '02 gsxr 750. This should give you an idea of just how fast you can go on street rubber.

If you're only on your second trackday you're likely nowhere near fast enough to benefit from BT002s. In fact....its entirely possible that all you'll do is destroy these tires faster than normal because they'll cold tear as your pace isn't fast enough to keep heat in the tires. I had this problem on a gsxr 1k when my pace was middle to front of novice group.

In conclusion: there's no real "need" to consider trackday rubber until you're at LEAST in the middle of the pack in intermediate group.
While you're right about most of this, what we're talking about isn't the 002Race, it's the 002R/S which is basically a street/ track tire. Harder compound in the middle, softer on the edges. Great tire, but still not a true track tire or race rubber.

While some folks can run really good laps on actual street tires, it's not the tires that are doing it, it's the rider. John Haner ran some unreal laps at TWS (Texas World Speedway) years ago on street tires; but when I tried to I ate shyte in turn 2 and I was only running 1:55's- Haner was about 10 seconds faster. I crashed because the tire lost traction on the front and low-sided. Haner was tossing that bike all around and sliding everywhere but he didn't crash. All that said, we've actually raced on street tires before to get some life out of them for a long race, traction wasn't nearly what it could have been on race rubber and our lap times showed it.

It's the rider.

However, in this case, it should hold true that regular street tires for this dude will be more than adequate, let's just not assume that because someone else runs great lap times on street tires it's because of the tires.
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