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Old 03-03-2009, 07:44 PM   #321
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trying to make a point with you is like talkng to Ryan or Gixxer Bill. Man where did I hear that from. So how does MSF help? you are only doing 20-25mph in a parking lot and stay in second gear. There is no cars to watch far and all that bullshit.

Doing a trackday will help 85% of people. The other 15% can not be helped or to fcking hard head to admit it helped. I know who falls, in where do you?
why is it when someone gets backed into a corner during a debate they gotta resort to the insults? perhaps its because you know youre wrong?

i never said track days dont help. not once. remember, YOU brought me into this thread, based on absolutely nothing ive ever said. im sorry, but blaming the rider for being rear ended is just plain stupid. also, id like to see where you got your percentage numbers from.


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Old 03-03-2009, 07:47 PM   #322
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:53 PM   #323
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Not really sure how anyone can disagree that Track Days wont make you a better, safer rider. I mean , if it's nothing else...it's seat time.

But it's all good. Maybe this thread raised some awareness. Maybe people think I am a dcik now. Maybe people think I am an elitest. It's whatever for me.

I know my intentions are pure.
nobody thinks you are a brandt, especially those of us that know you personally. we just think youre gay.

but track riding has been pressured on street riders so much and some of the trackheads like to belittle them because they cant/wont do track days for what ever reason they may have. trying to get them to the track is imperative, but we gotta make sure that were doing it for reasons other than "itll make you faster on the street". and even if they dont, then we have to accept that its different strokes for different folks. some people who have ridden the track absolutely didnt like it, and thats fine. its not for everybody.
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why is it when someone gets backed into a corner during a debate they gotta resort to the insults? perhaps its because you know youre wrong?


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I have no doubt the track days have the ability to make you a better more proficient rider. I dont see how it can be argued. I especially have a hard time seeing why anyone would want to argue about it. I dont do it because I dont have the bike for it and I like straight line racing. I dont wanna hear about any bike being a track bike either. That can easily be argued.
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i know you do. now fetch me a sammich.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:57 PM   #327
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I have no doubt the track days have the ability to make you a better more proficient rider. I dont see how it can be argued. I especially have a hard time seeing why anyone would want to argue about it. I dont do it because I dont have the bike for it and I like straight line racing.
thas what im getting at. you dont do it because its not your thing, but some will refuse to accept that.

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not sure what you mean by that.
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Put your 08 Busa on the track?
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:06 PM   #329
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If I had a stock height 6 I would be more interested.
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ok i see what youre saying. i was thinking you were getting at something else.
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nobody thinks you are a brandt, especially those of us that know you personally. we just think youre gay.

but track riding has been pressured on street riders so much and some of the trackheads like to belittle them because they cant/wont do track days for what ever reason they may have. trying to get them to the track is imperative, but we gotta make sure that were doing it for reasons other than "itll make you faster on the street". and even if they dont, then we have to accept that its different strokes for different folks. some people who have ridden the track absolutely didnt like it, and thats fine. its not for everybody.
Dude, I have been there. I remember when the racers and used to make fun of us that rode the forest and 3090. And they'll do it again this year when someone goes down, cuz they forget where they came from. That will never be me. I, unlike others, remember where I came from and will never stray far. And frankly,. with the exception of a post or two, I didnt see any force feeding of track days on to anyone.

I have probably seen 30 people go down in the forest and 3090 last year. AT POSTED LIMITS or barely over. You think they would have ran wide on a 35mph corner at 45mph if they had done a track day? I doubt it, cuz me and many others take them at 90mph and make it. And frankly, they could probably be taken at .

So look, if peeps dont have time, fine. If peeps have kids and dont wanan get hurt, fine. If they have jobs, fine. No money? Fine. But dont sit here and try to justify not doing a track day because it wont help you or make you a better rider or you think you know it all or cant get any better cuz you rode 60k miles with 1 minor incident and slid bicycles when you were 5.
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It has been said that any bike is a potential track bike. The point I was making is that not a legit argument. There are more suitable bikes than mine. I dont feel the need bad enough to road race mine.
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I'd be at the track all the time if it was empty-ish and I could just tool around at my own pace. Between dealing with the inevitable hitting the taped up brakelights in front of me or someone furiously waving colored flags that I never manage to recognize, it's just too much of a hassle to get into. About the time I'd settle in and start having fun, it was get-off-the-track to hurry up and wait time.

Granted, I had the crappiest track experience known to man because everything that could go wrong did; I'm gonna give it one more try when I don't have to slither into leathers in nine thousand degree weather, but I don't think even under the best circumstances I'll become a track addict simply because I've found my riding niche elsewhere.
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Your excited and just want to be there for those needing the little extra push. I see it.
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thas what im getting at. you dont do it because its not your thing, but some will refuse to accept that.

Mike...no one is refusing to accept that. People are refusing to accept the moronic argument that track days WONT make you a better rider.
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How many have you guys seen go down at speed at speeds much higher than the speed limit? I have seen several. Granted you have been on MANY more forest rides than I have, I would think you have prob seen alot more than I have.
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Mike...no one is refusing to accept that. People are refusing to accept the moronic argument that track days WONT make you a better rider.
who made the argument that track days will not make you a better rider?
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who made the argument that track days will not make you a better rider?
Can they even halp peoples with gixxers?
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