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Old 03-03-2009, 04:28 PM   #261
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:29 PM   #262
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OK, I'm confused.
I changed my thought....

"Track days will not make you a safer ride."

"Better yet, track days WILL make you a safer rider but not a more responsible rider, per se."
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I changed my thought....

"Track days will not make you a safer ride."

"Better yet, track days WILL make you a safer rider but not a more responsible rider, per se."
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I changed my thought....

"Track days will not make you a safer ride."

"Better yet, track days WILL make you a safer rider but not a more responsible rider, per se."
I somewhat agree, but i think a good deal of how safe a person is depends a great deal directly on how responsible of a rider they are.

Like I said all along, I agree that track days make you a better rider, but track days are not the only way a person can be a safer rider on the street.
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I think you took that in the wrong context. Will a track day make someone who is going to drive on backroads no matter what they do safer? Maybe, but there is alot of other ways to ensure one's safety and my point is a track day is not the bar all answer to that. The best way to insure one's safety is to start by riding safe. You cannot make the assumption that no matter what, any person who has done a track day will be safer on the streets than someone who hasn't. I am not saying I have not done high speed on backroads, or that anyone is a terrible person for doing such.
We're not far off. But I have to respectfully disagree with your bolded statement.
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YOU WILL...it's the inevitable. Perhaps that why some don't try the track. They hear about all the people who have given up the streets for the track and they don't want to go that route in fear that they'll be broke like the rest of us.
Yep. I purchased my second bike in October of 07. Before the summer of 08 the bike had over 11k miles on it. Shortly after that I started trackdays. My bike currently is at 13k something miles.
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I somewhat agree, but i think a good deal of how safe a person is depends a great deal directly on how responsible of a rider they are.

Like I said all along, I agree that track days make you a better rider, but track days are not the only way a person can be a safer rider on the street.


true... i have been riding motorcycles since 1964. way before most of you were born... only track i have been on is dirt tracks... and i must be some sort of good safe rider to still be around after all these years on the streets

now watch me get wadded up by a cager ... damnit... ok carry on...
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We're not far off. But I have to respectfully disagree with your bolded statement.
And that's fine, we will just agree to disagree on that.
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i can def tell the difference between (myself who has done a TD) and those who have not. And after my first TD, I rode with some buddies who had only seen me ride during my first two months as a rider, and they said I was like night and day. It looked like i knew exactly what i was doing...and like I had been doing it for years.

I say the reasons you ask about are obvious, they can't spend the money, and they don't want to crash their baby/pride and joy.


btw...here's me at my first TD a year ago (almost to the day)


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I somewhat agree, but i think a good deal of how safe a person is depends a great deal directly on how responsible of a rider they are.

Like I said all along, I agree that track days make you a better rider, but track days are not the only way a person can be a safer rider on the street.
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i dont see what the fuss is. pressuring people to ride the track (which is NOT cheap, even if you do corner working) so that they can be so-called safer on the street seems crazy to me. whatever happened to "to each his own"? why does it matter? it seems that track riding gives people a false sense of security when riding the back roads. they ride fast on teh track, then it transfers to the street. i cant help but get the impression that "if you dont ride track, you are stupid because you should do what we do". am i wrong in thinking this? i mean, this topic has been beaten to death.

me personally, i didnt buy a $8k machine just so i can take it to private property, pay $150 a day plus all other expenses, and wreck it. seems very expensive. i WISH i could afford it, but i cant. and even if i could, i have four kids at home so i dont have all this free time you guys have. i did a track day and had a friggin blast, but my bike will never see another track day. ill buy an old junker for that so that i can have some fun without being afraid of tearing it up. i bought my bike for the freedom of riding. to enjoy it. to ride with friends. to make new friends. not to have it sitting in the garage for 6 out of 7 days a week. im not trashing anyone by any means but i cant help but notice a bit of elitism coming from some. why cant yall just let it go? why does it matter if people do track or not?

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i dont see what the fuss is. pressuring people to ride the track (which is NOT cheap, even if you do corner working) so that they can be so-called safer on the street seems crazy to me. whatever happened to "to each his own"? why does it matter? it seems that track riding gives people a false sense of security when riding the back roads. they ride fast on teh track, then it transfers to the street. i cant help but get the impression that "if you dont ride track, you are stupid because you should do what we do". am i wrong in thinking this? i mean, this topic has been beaten to death.

me personally, i didnt buy a $8k machine just so i can take it to private property, pay $150 a day plus all other expenses, and wreck it. seems very expensive. i WISH i could afford it, but i cant. and even if i could, i have four kids at home so i dont have all this free time you guys have. i did a track day and had a friggin blast, but my bike will never see another track day. ill buy an old junker for that so that i can have some fun without being afraid of tearing it up. i bought my bike for the freedom of riding. to enjoy it. to ride with friends. to make new friends. not to have it sitting in the garage for 6 out of 7 days a week. im not trashing anyone by any means but i cant help but notice a bit of elitism coming from some. why cant yall just let it go? why does it matter if people do track or not?

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FWIW, after my track day, i got slower on the street because it scared the out of me, and i didnt like that at all.

oh and i do love coming to the track and hanging out with you guys. i always have a of a time even tho im not riding. especially brandt. thats one sexy in leathers.
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Wasn't gonna say it but since it seems this thread has lost all touch and will likely be locked soon, and I am not trying to personally call out anyone here. But it is funny to me that many of the people in here that seem to agree with this argument that track riding makes you "safer" on the street period, are some of the same people that do double, triple the limit on back roads. Seems to be there is nothing "safe" about doing that, no matter how many track days one has had.
I can barely do triple digits on my Harley but doing track days on my SV 650 has made me a much better rider. Cornering skills are just as important on a ponderous bike at 60 mph as on a quick fast bike at 120 mph.

For the guy who asked about doing a track day on a Sportster: I've seen a woman on a fully chromed Harley Vrod do a track day. She thought it helped her a lot.

People have different goals: some want to be racers and some just want to corner better. Track days can accomodate both goals.
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