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Old 02-28-2009, 03:09 PM   #21
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I figured so. he'd like toast me on the track, even with my 190/55 tire. ba ha ha ha. it's to be old and fat.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:13 PM   #22
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I figured so. he'd like toast me on the track, even with my 190/55 tire. ba ha ha ha. it's to be old and fat.
Nah, it's not so much that, it's just that he does speak from experience and has a very impressive racing record. He's not just pulling stuff out of his azz like others are a bit prone to do...

Just sayin'.
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Thanks for all of the advice.. I guess I will try it out at MSRH and if I don't like it, I am sure I can find someone who will want it. Already ordered , or I would try for the 190/55 most likely.
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Thanks for all of the advice.. I guess I will try it out at MSRH and if I don't like it, I am sure I can find someone who will want it. Already ordered , or I would try for the 190/55 most likely.
This is a good example of why it's good to use your trackside support too. Those guys know what works and why.

David Hirsch is the Michelin guy in Texas (and a National vendor).
John Hutchinson from South Central Race Center for Bridgestone and Pirelli (www.scracecenter.com).

Those guys may (or even may not) cost more than some of the online sales, but they know the product, give the trackside support, and know what works best around here.

Often times I've seen that their prices are the same or sometimes better than the online stuff, not to mention the fact that they have the right compounds for you, the track, and they have the freshest/ newest rubber. You don't get that with online- I've had friends that bought tires online for the track and gotten stuff that was over a year old and the total wrong compound (I think they were super softs for use in July...).

FWIW
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Old 02-28-2009, 04:36 PM   #25
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180 for the win? Which of the top 3 racers in CMRA, CCS, WERA, or AMA are running 180's on the back of their liter bikes? Ba ha ha ha. Maybe you meant 180's 'cause their cheap.
are you a top three racer?? don't really matter if something works for him as opposed to something else.
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well, personally i run 180 on my cbr 1000's but, i have a 5.5" forged wheel on the back...so that makes the difference.

but 3 years ago and such i always road 180/55 on the back of my litr bikes, never liked 190s untill the 55 profile came out, so much that when i had bought bikes with 190/50 on them, i pulled them off before i even road them once and replaced with a 180
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Just FYI that avatar pic in 'Road&Track's is him on an R1.

Not trying to contribute to the arguement, just sayin'.
uh huh,!
and he's sporting the #1 plate........
just saying,
i myself run a 190 even on my 600's.
turns in way faster IMHO
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I didn't have time to change the order so I will be getting a 180 rear. I will try it out and see how it feels. I have a 190/55 power race on there now, so it should be a pretty fair comparison. Thanks again for everyone's input.
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I believe Keith does know alot more about racing and tire sizes then most of everyone on any one of these boards. I listen to his advise. Very impresive racing history.
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uh huh,!
and he's sporting the #1 plate........
just saying,
i myself run a 190 even on my 600's.
turns in way faster IMHO
190's will not turn in faster on a 5.5" wheel than a 180 would.

more tire to fold over (wider tire, not necessarily steeper)....it actually makes the turn in slower.
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190's will not turn in faster on a 5.5" wheel than a 180 would.

more tire to fold over (wider tire, not necessarily steeper)....it actually makes the turn in slower.
+1. Those of us running 600s benefit from the less expensive 180/55s. My last trackday last season I did an impromptu trackday out at Harris Hill and didn't want to buy a new tire for 1 day so I used a take-off (was a 190/55 slick) and I prefer the 180/55 on the 600.
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180 for the win? Which of the top 3 racers in CMRA, CCS, WERA, or AMA are running 180's on the back of their liter bikes? Ba ha ha ha. Maybe you meant 180's 'cause their cheap.
OK smarty slacks, your showin you noobness.
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I figured so. he'd like toast me on the track, even with my 190/55 tire. ba ha ha ha. it's to be old and fat.
Yep, I would.

And, I thought this was about Michelin's, 180's FTW!!!
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