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Old 02-24-2009, 02:06 PM   #1
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Rep. Gene Green from Texas is the Chairman of Environment and Hazardous Materials Subcommittee. He participated in an online chat on Chron.com today. I was lucky enough to get this question in. How do you guys interpret his answer? Sounds like he agrees with the ban?


Me: Rep Green, a recent bill banning the sale of children's toys containing 600ppm or more of lead included motorcycles and ATVs intended for children 12 & Under. Is any action being taken to revise the bill and exclude cycles & ATVs since the lead content in these items is obviously no danger to children.

Rep. Gene Green: At this time, I do not believe there are proposed revisions to the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act in the Energy and Commerce Committee, but I have heard about the concerns with lead in ATV's.

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Old 02-24-2009, 02:12 PM   #2
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looks like it may take a long while to amend this.

I wonder if 65's and 85's are included in this.
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looks like it may take a long while to amend this.

I wonder if 65's and 85's are included in this.
Well tim anything that you ride is considered a children's toy fyi
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What if an adult wants one for his own use?
Then it isn't a product intended for children.
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What if an adult wants one for his own use?
Then it isn't a product intended for children.
From what I understand, they can not market it to adults
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my buddy just bought a brand new ktm 65, so i guess that one doesn't habe enough lead
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i was reading on thumpertalk about a guy who wanted to buy a lever for his bike which shares the same part number with a smaller bike. anyhow the parts counter was unable to sell the part to him because of this ban.
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Rep. Gene Green: At this time, I do not believe there are proposed revisions to the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act in the Energy and Commerce Committee, but I have heard about the concerns with lead in ATV's.

Great non-answer...


This site has links to premade letters which you can send to Congress and to the CPSC

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This video explains what is happening to the motorcycle and atv industry because of a law designed to keep toys with lead from being swallowed or slept with all night in a crib.

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What a joke...
I wonder if the people that already have the bikes can grandfather in and allow their kids under 12 to ride them?
It looks like the law prohibits the purchase, not the owning.
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Well tim anything that you ride is considered a children's toy fyi
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But the ban only affects Honda, right? I mean, I've seen Suzuki, KTM and other brands selling their toy bikes with no problem.
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is the nsf-100, nsr 50 and ysr 50 included in the mini bike ban???

what bout the mini bike they sell on harwin????
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is the nsf-100, nsr 50 and ysr 50 included in the mini bike ban???

what bout the mini bike they sell on harwin????

From the link I posted, important part is in bold:

The Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA) was signed into law on Aug. 14, 2008. The law increased the budget of the Consumer Product Safety Commission and, among other items, imposed new documentation requirements, new testing requirements and established new permissible levels of several substances, lead among them, for consumer products intended for children 12 and under.

Most of the components making up youth powersports products are in compliance with the new law. But some parts unavoidably contain small quantities of lead in excess of the CPSIA limits, such as the valve stems on the tires, aluminum in some brake components, and the terminals on the batteries. Lead in these components is necessary, either because small amounts of lead are needed for safety (such as machining the deep grooves on tire valves, which is needed to assure tire air retention) or functionality (such as the lead in battery terminals, which is needed to conduct electricity).

For weeks, the MIC and SVIA urged the CPSC to grant (and for members of Congress to support) petitions for temporary exclusions so that youth models could continue to be sold. The powersports industry demonstrated in the petitions, through the scientific analysis required by the CPSIA, that the lead-containing parts of youth ATVs and motorcycles pose no risk of increasing the lead levels in children aged 12 and younger.

The powersports industry was unable to seek exclusions until the CPSC issued proposed rules in January 2009.

On Feb. 5, the CPSC denied a request for an emergency stay, made by the National Association of Manufacturers CPSC Coalition, and joined by the MIC and SVIA. The CPSC stated that it did not have authority under the law to grant such a stay.

The CPSIA, however, includes provisions that enable the CPSC to grant exclusions for products on a case-by-case basis. The MIC and SVIA believe that the lead-content provisions of the act, which originally were aimed at toys that can be mouthed by children, were never intended to apply to youth ATVs and motorcycles.

On Feb. 10, the lead-content provisions of the CPSIA went into effect. Powersports companies are now prohibited from selling products that are intended primarily for youth, aged 12 and under, and having lead content in excess of the limits identified in the act.

The industry continues to encourage everyone in the powersports business, and its customers, to support the petitions, now in front of the CPSC, for temporary exclusions so that youth models can once again be sold.


Anything that is sold for people aged 12 and under falls under the ban. All you have to do is look up the age requirement on the product, and that should tell you if it's banned or not.
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