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Old 02-24-2009, 10:18 AM   #61
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^^ no need to make him feel like without msf he is on the way to dying on his bike RACER.

Good choice in bikes man, ride a 08 600rr. The MSF class is very helpful however if you decide not to take it maybe set up some cones in a parking lot and practice some tight turns and other situations. I started on an f4i and believe that if the rider starting on a 600 has self control and respects the power then you will be fine. Like many have said look into a track day and you will love it. And maybe down the road after you have been riding awhile look into the ERC.
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:20 AM   #62
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^^ no need to make him feel like without msf he is on the way to dying on his bike RACER.

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ODDS of dying, possible, prolly not. crashing VERY VERY high.
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You came up with 90% on your own? Im glad you know me so well to tell me that i don't know my limits

If i wasn't comfortable with being on the freeway there are exits...

Well my excuse for the "MSF" class is I'm going to wait to get paid before i go. Thanks for the concern but i think ill live till i get a pay check RacerX.



RacerX is a MSF Instructor. But yes, he can be a bit brash; nevertheless, it's good advise (albeit on a highly contentious subject matter).

I think the stat is correct.

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You came up with 90% on your own? Im glad you know me so well to tell me that i don't know my limits

If i wasn't comfortable with being on the freeway there are exits...

Well my excuse for the "MSF" class is I'm going to wait to get paid before i go. Thanks for the concern but i think ill live till i get a pay check RacerX.
there are ways to get your license without taking msf and spending money. would do it as fast as you can cause i swear being 100% legal has gotten me outta so many tickets. i would bet 90% of people dont have 1 or more things required to be on the road like license or insurance or inspection or etc. lol good luck with the new bike. maybe i will see yall at one of those webster meets ore somethin. i know busa bulllet goes to em sometimes
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:26 AM   #65
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passing the "riding" test doesn't = knowing how to ride. esp a 600SS bike.

funny how people can afford $10k bikes but not the measly riding course.

so what ya got for gear michell's?
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passing the "riding" test doesn't = knowing how to ride. esp a 600SS bike.

funny how people can afford $10k bikes but not the measly riding course.

so what ya got for gear michell's?
i never said it did. i just said hurry up and get legal. it will pay off in the long run
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passing the "riding" test doesn't = knowing how to ride. esp a 600SS bike.

funny how people can afford $10k bikes but not the measly riding course.

so what ya got for gear michell's?
Wow i already don't like you. Its called Financing, and I've got gear.
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I disagree, Gary. I think even a newer rider can learn a ton at the track and it's a helluva lot better than the street. Remember how slow the the level 1 folks ride.
I'm with maxgs. After taking the MSF, riding on the track is the BEST place to learn the basics in my opinion. No cars, no cross traffic, no stigma for going slow in the Level 1 group. Keep a cool head and don't try charging into every corner at mach one and I think a rider can pick up the basics of control very quickly. Not that there's anything bad with learning on city streets, the track is simply better IMO.

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Nice bike! I love the graphics and color scheme.

... I never took a MSF class, but I have been riding for quite sometime now. I learned everything on my own. I believe a safe rider is being smart in his/her decisions on the roads. Of course safety gear is a must, but being a to this guy is not the right way to go. I know that "positive criticism" works in many ways, but this guy hasn't mentioned one thing about doing anything stupid/careless. Give him a break and ease into him, if you really want him to take your class that badly. The odds of dying/crashing are possible and high in any vehicle... , I can trip over something walking and die from landing the wrong way. Thats my two cents on this matter.

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Old 02-24-2009, 06:37 PM   #73
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hes already planning on taking the course... just as i did. the things i was taught in MSF are the exact basics i went over with him along with other misc. things of the road. plus, i made sure he got a jacket, gloves, helment before any riding was done. the man can afford the class... trust me, its just that hes got me to lean on (who has taken the course) and has just spent a lot of money on downpayments, and GEAR and such. all in all though i think he should be all good, i watch him ride... doing a lot better than i thought he would... hes still a stall king though.
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hes already planning on taking the course... just as i did. the things i was taught in MSF are the exact basics i went over with him along with other misc. things of the road. plus, i made sure he got a jacket, gloves, helment before any riding was done. the man can afford the class... trust me, its just that hes got me to lean on (who has taken the course) and has just spent a lot of money on downpayments, and GEAR and such. all in all though i think he should be all good, i watch him ride... doing a lot better than i thought he would... hes still a stall king though.
Good deal, man

It's always good to have a friend, who understands the risks we take as riders, help a noob get started in this world of motorcycling. You may not be MSF, but at least you teach him to be responsible, and you can only suggest that he take the MSF. In the end, it's up to him to make that decision; but based on his willingness to listen to your advise, i'm sure he'll take the course, and will be in good hands.
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I will add though, that it may not be the best idea to take him on the freeways just yet. At least not until he gets used to the bike, its controls, and past the "stalling" stage!


And again... it comes down to his decision whether he wants to heed that advise or not.
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I will add though, that it may not be the best idea to take him on the freeways just yet. At least not until he gets used to the bike, its controls, and past the "stalling" stage!


And again... it comes down to his decision whether he wants to heed that advise or not.
true, hes my cousin and we got an apt. together so he gets to listen to my annoying a$$ harp on him all the time i was lucky enough to put the first mile on his bike. lol, only so i could let him know how it rides butyeah he does pretty well, if others are riding a little to aggressive for him, he will just lay back, hes got his head on his shoulders, well... in the riding dept. for now. haha.
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You came up with 90% on your own? Im glad you know me so well to tell me that i don't know my limits

If i wasn't comfortable with being on the freeway there are exits...

Well my excuse for the "MSF" class is I'm going to wait to get paid before i go. Thanks for the concern but i think ill live till i get a pay check RacerX.


Spoken like a true newbie. If you can afford the bike then you can afford to sign up for the class and let it sit in your garrage until you take the class. the bike wont run away from you in the mean time. Racer X may be harsh but it's 100% true what he just told you and you blew it off just because you are having fun riding

I hope your a 10%'er but there's that 90% that say's you aren't.
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Spoken like a true newbie. If you can afford the bike then you can afford to sign up for the class and let it sit in your garrage until you take the class. the bike wont run away from you in the mean time. Racer X may be harsh but it's 100% true what he just told you and you blew it off just because you are having fun riding

I hope your a 10%'er but there's that 90% that say's you aren't.
+1 Hehehe... Live and Learn!


It so predictable how people react to RacerX, that I think it's hilarious

He speaks the truth, nonetheless.
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