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Old 02-22-2009, 02:00 PM   #21
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why cant people just wear there gear? Iagree with old school their just trying to look cool and you know what, the stupid thing is nobody cares if your at a redlight the cagers or whoever aren't looking at you they are looking at your bike!!!!!!
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:41 PM   #22
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I just wanna chime in on this subject....
I'm with the original poster. YES, wearing gear is the safe thing to do, but this IS a free country. There are people who choose to ride without it. I myself, even on occasion go out without a jacket on (but ALWAYS helmet, gloves and boots). But guess what? That choice is MINE to make. I, along with anyone else riding, knows the consequences of riding without gear. I wouldn't expect any sympathy if I went down and had rash, and I wouldn't give sympathy to anyone else either.
But the thing about it is, all you guys on this board and this site (with a few exceptions) think that they are all high and mighty, and better than anyone else. If you see someone like me without a jacket on (but again, helmet and gloves), you call me a squid and try and put me down. I don't deserve that. You're not making this site very friendly. I come here often, and used to contribute, but any time I did, I got flamed (not for being a squid, but stupid stuff like riding a 250). I have only participated in one group ride, but I was treated like an outsider because I didn't have a jacket. Bah! Guess what!?? I ride EVERY SINGLE DAY by myself.... I don't need anyone on here to tell me I'm cool, or tell me I'm 'bringing down the sport' of riding.

My point is, please, give it a rest. Please, can't we all just enjoy being brothers on 2 wheels? No one is better than anyone else for any choices they make. We are all here to have fun on our bikes. Sure, feel free to educate newbs on the importance of gearing up for each ride, but if you want to talk about squids, go do it on the message boards of Thanks.
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Old 02-22-2009, 04:15 PM   #23
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I wear gear.
it's a free country, do whatever you want.
I will call you a squid. or a douche. or a squidouche.
who cares what I call you?
who cares what anyone calls anyone?

what all this has to do with being almighty is beyond me. I don't have to be a deity to call people things that amuse me.
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Old 02-22-2009, 04:33 PM   #24
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where can i get these riding pants you speak of, something that looks like normal pants. im overweight and wouldn't leave the house in leather pants, i already looked like a stuffed sausage as is
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Old 02-22-2009, 04:37 PM   #25
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Motorcycles Unlimited has the fieldsheer riding jeans with aramid in the seat and knees, they mostly look like regular jeans with a few extra seams. I think they sell em for right around $70.
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Old 02-22-2009, 04:45 PM   #26
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i ride with gear..everything except the pants..i jus wear some jeans.
but if someone wants to wear less than that i dont care..its there decision..just like smoking cigaretes it kills as well

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Old 02-22-2009, 04:46 PM   #27
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Except for what's required by law, riders are free to wear what they want, sure.

But equally, everybody else is free to call other riders whatever they want.

Squid, gaper, jong, fred, FNG, touron, spore, poseur... They're all fun ways to distinguish the almighty in-crowd clique "Us" from the foolish "Them."
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:23 PM   #28
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:10 PM   #29
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I would ride with protection but I am alergic to latex. Maybe I could try sheepskin?
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:07 PM   #30
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i don't say anything about the riders attire.

but i enjoy a low speed cornering stall as much as the next guy...
not as good as a failed wheelie, but better than ragging on some dude thats 'unsafe'.

proper gear just give me that much more confidence in myself.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:05 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by CaligoneTx View Post
The antagonizing(likely mispelled) comes from our community usually after we reference threads that are familiar to this group. We have had multiple threads on 'what is a squid' and 'curb monkeys' etc. But newer peeps coming in will likely not read these threads and see harsher comments level out to more subtle, understanding remarks.

So often times our comments can be a little harsh in their general nature to newer peeps. Valid point addressed, but the concern still remains for the individual safety of riders in the hobby we share even though it is their individual choice as to what they wear.

Prepare for the crash, not the ride. Gear up and ride safe peeps.

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Old 02-22-2009, 08:25 PM   #33
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If your going over 30mph with no lid....YOUR A SQUID!

If your going for a little ride through town without a jacket....YOUR A SQUID!

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Old 02-22-2009, 08:32 PM   #34
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On this topic, I have to disagree a bit. Calling somebody a squid does no good, nor is that what I did in the recent picture thread from ASI.

However, face it, nobody plans to go down. Most people associated with MotoHouston wear "gear" and it means helmet, jacket and gloves and (hopefully) boots. I think about the number of people who have recently gone down in relatively minor incidents who have screwed up their knees pretty badly. Three come to mind immediately two of whom I know pretty well. I think helping folks understand that a lot of the people who wear jeans have knee protection underneath is a GREAT IDEA particularly when the additional protection only costs $25. Who was it that went down today and walked away thanks, in part, to his brand new knee protection?

I'd like to see people accept wearing this $25 piece of safety equipment as readily as they wear gloves. And, I don't see the harm in helping folks understand that many, many of us do exactly that.

As a bit of background, prior to getting heavily involved in sportbikes, I rode my chopper in the typical biker attire and though nothing of it. Heck, that's how everybody dressed who rode similar equipment. Gearing up never crossed my mind. I had this same attitude when I rode my busa on the street and, earlier, my ZX-11.

Then I bought the gixxer, started riding on the track, and got to know many other track riders and MH folks. Of course at the track, I had a lot of help figuring out what gear I was supposed to be wearing. I really never had any intention of riding the gixxer on the street. However, I ended up riding with a few MH folks and others, and I started enjoying it. Almost everybody I saw wore gear (helmets, gloves, boots) all the time and, since I had it, I did as well. The attention people paid to wearing the proper gear "all the time" ultimately sank in and now that's how I ride. I think this is a huge benefit that I gained from this community, and I appreciate it.

And, yes, Gary (DudeWheresMyBike) I even gear up on the chopper now, as I was a couple weeks back at The Tavern. I think there are a bunch of people new to the sportbike community who are like I was, rather ignorant about safety gear. This community helps in that education process, sometimes in nice ways and other times a little more obnoxiously. Hopefully, people find that I'm usually nice about it.
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Old 02-22-2009, 10:48 PM   #37
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:49 PM   #38
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im talking to all those that call out a "squid " that r wearing some gear. like they have on a jacket and a helmet but because they have a rip in their jeans and not wearing a full piece leather suit than they r a squid.


they ride the way they feel good at. who are you to call those guys out???

you never went out without full gear on????

if you say no, i call bs,

maybe if the only time is on the track but seriously, if they have a helmet or more on, quit trying to call that person a squid..... especially when you were riding like that this past week.

just tired of seeing someone call someone else out when they were posted on "the wall of shame" just the other day for riding without a helmet.

Wow. Hmm. I've ridden 20 yards or so in the apartment complex to the water pump. I test road the bike the first time maybe 100 ft or so with no gear, didn't have it at that time. Road 2-3 times with full gear minus jeans... other than that it is FULL GEAR ALL THE TIME. Not FULL GEAR PART OF THE TIME WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT.

I do judge that others don't ride safely when they avoid full gear. To me riding without a backprotector isn't full gear, I go as far as I can. BUT, I don't show my opinions as a gear down someone else's throat. They can answer for their own actions. I personally want to walk away. I feel more confident on my bike with gear.

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im scared to ask what half was naked, at least you had you jacket and lid on i guess
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