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Old 02-19-2009, 03:56 PM   #1
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Question texas mile question

when doing 200 plus do your tires have to be special? do they hold up? most arent rated for those high speeds
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when doing 200 plus do your tires have to be special? do they hold up? most arent rated for those high speeds

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Z rated tires are for 149+. it doesn't speify what "+" is
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Up to 150 MPH: SR, TR or UR rated tires.

Up to 175 MPH: HR rated tires.

Up to 200 MPH: VR or ZR rated tires.

Up to 220 MPH: WR & YR rated tires or steel-belted drag radials .

some good info from a busa site, about boneville

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i would use 002's or 003's
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i just would hat to imagine what would happen if a tire came apart at that speed
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I am gonna run regular pilot powers.... Rated to 168mph I believe....I should beat that by about 50mph.... We'll see in March..
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I think I once read that the rating for the speed indicated is considered to be safe for that speed sustained for 30 minutes and the + means they will go higher but not rated to do so for the full 30 minutes, no mention of time for higher speeds was stated.
Anyhow thats what I recall reading a few years back.
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I have been out there twice and not that many got to 200, apparently it is a lot harder than people think
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People underestimate the HP needed to pass 200.
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I have been out there twice and not that many got to 200, apparently it is a lot harder than people think

You got that right bro....... WAY harder.... To put it into perspective.... A stock Hayabusa is a "200 mph motorcycle" in the eyes of the general public, yet run low 180s in a standing Mile. The difference in running 180 to running 200 mph on a Hayabusa in a standing Mile is about 50-60hp....thats assuming an average weight rider.....Then after 200mph, you can just about add another 50-75hp to gain 10mph, after that, at 100hp to gain another 10mph.... So many variables affect speeds, especially when you only have 1 mile to get it done in....

Lots of hurt egos at the Tx Mile for sure...
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ill top out at like 155 and ill be happy haha
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ill top out at like 155 and ill be happy haha
You might only run in the 140's at the Texas Mile. As Alan and a few others have said, it's a LOT tougher than people think and from a dig-in-1-mile it's even harder...
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You got that right bro....... WAY harder.... To put it into perspective.... A stock Hayabusa is a "200 mph motorcycle" in the eyes of the general public, yet run low 180s in a standing Mile. The difference in running 180 to running 200 mph on a Hayabusa in a standing Mile is about 50-60hp....thats assuming an average weight rider.....Then after 200mph, you can just about add another 50-75hp to gain 10mph, after that, at 100hp to gain another 10mph.... So many variables affect speeds, especially when you only have 1 mile to get it done in....

Lots of hurt egos at the Tx Mile for sure...
+1 to that, It takes alot of cash, sweat, tears, and blood to get a bike over 200+ in a standing mile. It will seperate the posers from the goers.
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People underestimate the HP needed to pass 200.
This guys 10R puts down 180. . .

200.2 MPH on an 04 ZX-10R. Check this out.

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This guys 10R puts down 180. . .

200.2 MPH on an 04 ZX-10R. Check this out.

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Yeah but he didn't hit 200 within a mile..... Although I think a ZX10 with some weight reduction and 180-185hp "COULD" hit 200 within a standing mile if the setup is right and the rider is light......

Speedy1 on this board had a 05 ZX10 that was setup well and he was running in the 190s on spray in the Mile but he is around 220lbs..... Not sure what the HP on motor was, prolly around 170hp...I am sure he was dumping 40-50hp worth of dope in it also.
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"First run he did the bike did 200.2mph in a tad bit over a mile long distance. He did 194-195mph in 9/10ths of a mile "

Sheesh Alan, just give the guy some credit!

LOL, I know I know every MPH is important to you guys. . .
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As to the original thread and the link I'm using Pilots street front and Medium Race in the rear. I have tested on Shinko's to 187MPH with no problems, but went with the Pilots due to mass recommendation from the LSR community.
As to "Harder than most think and Hurt Ego's" count me in that group. We ran 181MPH at the Mile last October. Fast enough on a STREETBIKE to eclipse about 60% of the field, but I still had my eyes on that Red cap.
I started with a bone stock Busa and added the following PAIR valve block offs and valve removal, Brocks street Meg, Small airbox Mod, K&N filter, Synthetic oil, Power Commander, Brock's rear adjustable lowering links, GenMar bar riser to lower the front, and I weigh about 115 geared up. All in all a pretty good combination yet as I said 187 in testing and 181 at the Mile. So it's not just a show up on a stock Busa and run 200 thing.
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"First run he did the bike did 200.2mph in a tad bit over a mile long distance. He did 194-195mph in 9/10ths of a mile "

Sheesh Alan, just give the guy some credit!

LOL, I know I know every MPH is important to you guys. . .
Heck, a lot of people claim 200mph in a little over a mile but actual speed is a little different. If it was that easy everyone would be doing it at the 1-mile events and it just doesn't happen. Until he gets to a sanctioned event, it really won't matter what his GPS says because it's all hearsay until it's at an official timing certified speed FROM a sanctioned event....
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