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View Poll Results: Should earphones be allowed on the track?
Yes 22 17.60%
No 79 63.20%
Do as you wish 24 19.20%
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:29 AM   #21
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For me, I need no other distractions. I need to hear the engine, possibly things around me, I need to be focused on nothing except EXACLTY what I am doing.

But that's just me.

However, guys like you and some of the racers, that have done countless track days are probably affected less by the music.

Furthermore, if I go down, the last thing I want is some music blasting in my ears.

*knock on wood*
key words in bold....you should've voted "do as you wish"

i don't jam to no music on the track myself....but i don't see why it poses a problem, just tryin to validate my statements
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:30 AM   #22
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I voted "no" but then i'm still a noob and instructors are always pulling me over to ask me WTF I'm doing, so from a communication POV it would make sense not to have music going on ... but I think if you're an expert ... rock on!
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:31 AM   #23
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i voted no just because as some have said ,you nned all of your focus on the track and whats in front of you.
i too wait a couple of turns before making a pass,but not to let him/her know im there but rather to make sure their lines are "stable". and predictable.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:33 AM   #24
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You gave the answer right there yourself why it should be no. You are not multitasking capable. Even if many people want to believe they are. The music will distract you and take away the focus.

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so you cannot drive your car and crank the music up?

when i'm gettin sleepy and on the road....i crank the music up and roll the windows down to keep me focused on the road and awake

i didn't vote yes btw, i voted do as you wish.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:33 AM   #25
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what if someone was deaf? (i actually know a deaf rider on the track)

someone can shift using reference points as well....or with the peripheral vision. i use both of those. listening to the engine won't give you consistency. with certain ear plugs, i can't even hear my engine, all i hear is exhaust racket.

not pickin on ya blends, just killin some time with this thread lol
im a noob when it comes to track or racing so i have no doubt that with experience and consistancy, you can use visual reference points to shift, just as you do to drop into turns.

i'm just saying that hearing my engine helps me to know when its time to shift.

also, i can't ride with headphones (ear buds) because it's just not comfortable to me. if they shift in my ear even a minuscule amount, my helmet is snug (fits properly) so there's no way for me to get my fingers in there to adjust them back into a comfortable position. the last thing i want is for them to move in my ear as soon as i leave the grid and i have to take a hot pit and loose part of my session to get my lid off and adjust the music.

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so you cannot drive your car and crank the music up?

when i'm gettin sleepy and on the road....i crank the music up and roll the windows down to keep me focused on the road and awake


i didn't vote yes btw, i voted do as you wish.
you and your good points.
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with certain ear plugs, i can't even hear my engine, all i hear is exhaust racket.
yeah i know what you mean,i think its the rubber ones that are shaped like a pine tree that really suck.
i personally use the foam "hearos"
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i think i'll be slower with music going on, but it doesn't mean i can't ride safely with them on.
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yeah i know what you mean,i think its the rubber ones that are shaped like a pine tree that really suck.
i personally use the foam "hearos"
i use the hearos as well...everyone has different sized ears, and all plugs are different....you should try out a bunch and see which one is best for you.

you'd be surprised on the differences in earplugs
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you and your good points.



what can i say....i'm bored and i'm stormin up all kinds of to say...paint's almost dry, so i won't be responding much in a few minutes
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But Tony, what if one of the earphones needs adjusting? What if he is trying to switch songs and with his ipod or MP3 player? You know as well as I do that those are distractions that do not need to be on the track. It's inevitable it will happen, thus there will be a BAN one those at all TTD events.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:42 AM   #31
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Ironically for me, given the point of distraction in this thread, the times i even considered putting the buds in instead of my earplugs at the track ultimately i decided not to b/c for me i become so engrossed (sp?) and focused that i was almost certain i wouldnt even "hear" the music if you know what i mean. Meaning it may be playing but im not really even taking it in or hearing lyrics so it seemed a pointless hassle.


Now thats just me personally and the way my mind works on the track.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:48 AM   #32
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But Tony, what if one of the earphones needs adjusting? What if he is trying to switch songs and with his ipod or MP3 player? You know as well as I do that those are distractions that do not need to be on the track. It's inevitable it will happen, thus there will be a BAN one those at all TTD events.
this is kinda what I was looking for....Trackday org representatives acknowledging the potential problems it could create.

So, in this thread both TTD and Ride Smart affiliates have mentioned that they do not allow the use of earphones on the track. My point is that the participants may not know this rule and it NEEDS to be covered during the riders meeting.

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I hardly ever even listen to music on the street on the bike. There is just too much going on too have that as well. If you are not thinking and processing everything around you on the road every second your riding, then you most likely should be.

As far as the track goes, granted you don't have cagers and other various dangers, but your also doing 2x, 3x or even 4x what you might be doing on the streets. there is not always time for extra second to think on the track.

personally i will never have buds on while on the track and i hope no one around me does either. i also hope that the TD org's i ride with strictly prohibit it. but that's just my opinion.
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Ironically for me, given the point of distraction in this thread, the times i even considered putting the buds in instead of my earplugs at the track ultimately i decided not to b/c for me i become so engrossed (sp?) and focused that i was almost certain i wouldnt even "hear" the music if you know what i mean. Meaning it may be playing but im not really even taking it in or hearing lyrics so it seemed a pointless hassle.


Now thats just me personally and the way my mind works on the track.
i've tried it before......and as you have said, i don't even hear the music.
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But Tony, what if one of the earphones needs adjusting? What if he is trying to switch songs and with his ipod or MP3 player? You know as well as I do that those are distractions that do not need to be on the track. It's inevitable it will happen, thus there will be a BAN one those at all TTD events.
i know, i'm just pokin fun with my fellow mh'ers
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BTW what level did this happen on?
Level 4 (advanced), but I don't see how what level it was in making a difference. I think it's a distraction, in all levels....not just for noobs, but advanced riders as well.
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I can see why some people could ride with them. I don't myself because I like to hear what's going on around me. But Candie loves to ride with hers because it helps her focus on her ride and not be distracted by other bikes buzzing by. But I can also agree with having an Org. policy for no mp3's.
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I read that "ear PLUGS" and voted yes

no way should you listen to an iPod or anything while on the track. all your attention needs to be on the track
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No...absolutely NOT!! Not on the track.

BTW...I am a former MSF instructor and am a licensed Expert racer.

There have been countless times where someone might try to come up the inside of me and I would hear them and leave just that little bit of extra room. I wouldn't leave the door wide open, but I'd leave enough to where we could BOTH get thru the turn together (side-by-side) if needed.

If I would've been dumb enough to wear music...we both would've gone down because I would've pinched them off.

If you can't make it thru a 20min track session without the stupid IPOD for stimulation then you need another hobby.

Next thing you know these idiots will want to use their earbud cellphones (bluetooth) on the track too.
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