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Old 02-17-2009, 10:28 AM   #1
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Question Race suspension question??

I'm pretty much done with the bike except for suspension.
What do you racers recommend for me? I weigh 150lb and ride and 06 gsxr600 trackbike






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Old 02-17-2009, 10:31 AM   #2
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. I replace my stock stuff with after market bc I'm a fat .

If your looking for a bit more adjustment change out the rear shock (Ohlins) and go from there.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:40 AM   #4
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I'm pretty much done with the bike except for suspension.
What do you racers recommend for me? I weigh 150lb and ride and 06 gsxr600 trackbike
I am new to the racing scene myself but I have done 9 or so track days.The factory shock on the triumph does some crazy when there are bumps in the corners, near bounces me out of the seat I have been up and down the settings with two guys that know the suspension stuff really really well. I either am on a pillow or a 2x4, so I think I am going to upgrade to an Ohlins rear shock (money permitting) and see if it changes.

The question I have for you is do you notice or feel any adverse suspension issues when you ride on the track? If not than you don't need anything. If you do then work with the suspension guys (at all track days and sometimes will help you for free ) to figure it out. If you can't get anywhere there, you may want to try a new (better quality) rear shock or front inserts. These bikes are so good that you really don't start noticing anything until you get pretty fast. The faster you go the more sensitive the suspension gets and the more you upset it with mistakes.

Most "racers" will tell you to upgrade yourself before you do anything (aka seat time cures a lot). Practically speaking you don't "need" anything until you out grow what you got
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. I replace my stock stuff with after market bc I'm a fat .

If your looking for a bit more adjustment change out the rear shock (Ohlins) and go from there.
Oh come on... what happened to your "upgrade the rider" stand by comment. I was totally banking on you!
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The only time I feel im maxing out my suspension is turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway). But other then that it feels OK.

So at my weight you think stock suspension is race ready?
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The only time I feel im maxing out my suspension is turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway). But other then that it feels OK.

So at my weight you think stock suspension is race ready?
Gonzo hauls , on stock suspension. Same bike. Irish hauls too.
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Gonzo hauls , on stock suspension. Same bike. Irish hauls too.


Although I think Gonzo is looking into better stuff but he's also quite a bit faster.
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The only time I feel im maxing out my suspension is turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway). But other then that it feels OK.

So at my weight you think stock suspension is race ready?
Your gonna blow my out of the water so yeah it will be fine. I am racing stock suspension this weekend too! All about the prov nov

Turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) is always fun! If I am being completely honest that corner is the hardest corner at any track I have riden on. Not in terms of complexity but in overcoming fear... Your just hauling off the straight and I seem to remember that there is a rough transition as you cross down to the apex. I don't really remember any other corners at TWS (Texas World Speedway) that "upset" my suspension.
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my bikes sag hasn't been broken in yet...(only 135lbs) but...

when i remove my stock muffler i need to lose some compression damping.

other than that i run it like it is. & sometimes on bumpier corners under power it feels like the rear wheel wants to walk around me. don't really know how to fix that...
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Being as light as you are, you may look into doing a simple respring first.
Most factory street bikes are set up rather stiff to be able to handle 2 up riding. The stock components nowadays are pretty good and have a wide range of adjustment. Setup is key.

If your just getting into racing, your gonna be dumping alot of money on other things to get going. I'd say work with what you got for the time being and upgrade later once you feel riding beyond it's limits.
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my bikes sag hasn't been broken in yet...(only 135lbs) but...

when i remove my stock muffler i need to lose some compression damping.

other than that i run it like it is. & sometimes on bumpier corners under power it feels like the rear wheel wants to walk around me. don't really know how to fix that...
1) get you suspension adjusted
2) Monitor your tire pressures closer
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with150 you should be able to just set it up for now.
i am only 104 nothing stock works for me ;(
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The point I'm getting at is.... Will suspension upgrades make me faster and confident? If so, what do you recommend? Racetech?
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Penske, Traxxion, Ohlins, Racetech (but you can't set it up the way they say) will all work. Even some stock forks can be made to work very well.
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The only time I feel im maxing out my suspension is turn 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway). But other then that it feels OK.
That's probably the compression on your rear sphincter is set too high. Loosen it up and your bike will feel better.
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Well any money spent on suspension is money well spent.
The question is how much do you want to spend?

1. Respring only: $200-300
2. Respring/Revalve front & rear: $800 - $1200
3. Aftermarket Rear shock(Ohlins/Penske)/Respring/Revalve front: $1700-2000
4. Aftermarket Rear shock / Cartridge kit front forks: $2200-$2500
5. Full Aftermarket front and rear race suspension: $3500++++

Like Bigcomfy said,
If it aint broke, don't fix it. Myself, I'd rather spend that money later when you feel like you need it. If you feel that the bike is handling poorly and a limiting factor for you, then get the best you can afford.
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You will feel like you need it about 3 seconds after you stop sliding down the track. lol
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Ohlins Superbike Forks and TTX shock....


Won't make you faster, but it should keep you from crashing just because you're scared to scratch the forks. Would look great at starbucks!
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as light as you are, the rear could use a major tune up.

LIke most said, springs would do you a great service
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